Who is responsible for the downfall?

[Arabischer]

We all have different opinions, but the poll should tell us who is right.

[Oxidant]

How can you blame the regime for anything after it’s removal. From 1991 and onwards, you cannot blame the government

In order,

I would blame
1. SSDF/AY Coup
2. USC
3. SNM

The day AY started his clan superiority mentality and created an clan based movement, that day Somalia died.

[The_Patriot]

It depends on what angle you look at it from.
1) Historical
2) Economical
3)Cultural
4)External Factors

MSB AU had both negative and positive aspects but this is not an excuse for the entire destruction of Somalia to be blame at him .

There has been successful regime changes across the world like Uganda, Rwanda etc nothing has been recorded of the somali proportion.
Seems like folks from somalia never fought for independence to know what it is and preferred to be servitudes to the Colonialists.

Anyway Somalia was a land drawn by colonialists and had no historical connection. Northerners and Southerners who had different cultures were lumped together and those that had served the brutal colonialists became its leaders and run its parliament.

Thus it was a predicament that the country would one day collapse.

[Arabischer]

How can you blame the regime for anything after it’s removal. From 1991 and onwards, you cannot blame the government

Why not? If you cause a chain reaction, and the reaction continues after your death, you aren't responsible for it?

and those that had served the brutal colonialists became its leaders and run its parliament.

True.

[Oxidant]

Why not? If you cause a chain reaction, and the reaction continues after your death, you aren't responsible for it?

NO

What chain reaction? If anything, the chain a reaction was started by AY when he created his clan based movement, which started the whole debacle.

The armed groups reached their goal and removed Siad Barre, if was up to them and their OWN accord to reach a treaty and created functional government in which they personally and completely failed. Those who blame Siad Barre for the civil war are exactly like those African Americans who blame slavery for their current predicament. It's take to accept the fact of your own personal failings and deal with them, the blame game needs to be stopped

[Nabeela]

Simply all Somalis are responsible.

[Cumar-Labasuul]

Isaaq - July 1st 1960

[Cirwaaq]

The Regime had the ACCOUNTABILITY to maintain the Unity of the people, each clan army had a RESPONSIBILITY to the Unity.

?Responsible = all somalis. By Action or inaction.

[ToughGong]

Ultimately it was the regime in charge at the time which should bare the brunt of the blame
Laakiin all of us are responsible collectively,and until that is recognised,we're just gonna keep re-inventing the wheel

[Arabischer]

NO

What chain reaction? If anything, the chain a reaction was started by AY when he created his clan based movement, which started the whole debacle.

The armed groups reached their goal and removed Siad Barre, if was up to them and their OWN accord to reach a treaty and created functional government in which they personally and completely failed. Those who blame Siad Barre for the civil war are exactly like those African Americans who blame slavery for their current predicament. It's take to accept the fact of your own personal failings and deal with them, the blame game needs to be stopped

Why do you exclusively blame AY? AY did just what Siyaad did; attempt coup d'etat. It isn't like Siyaad come to power democratically. And Siyaad's government was clan based, just as it would have been any other whose coup d'etat succeeded. So, what's your beef with AY? And are you insinuating AY gave the idea of insurrection to the SNM, USC and future armed opposition?

[qoraxeey]

[Arabischer]

[Navy9]

Mon ami, c'est la vie: what goes up, must come down.

[Shirib]

Simply all Somalis are responsible.

I agree

Somali's like putting all the blame on one person/entity instead of looking at the big picture

In 1990 it was Siyaad, then it was Caydiid, then we were fine with clan fiefdoms, then it was Abdullah Yusuf and now its Al Shabaab

[Arabischer]

How is it possible that all Somalis are responsible? That's ridiculous. What have unarmed groups or civilians done to be responsible? What has a kid or a mother crossing a road and who was killed by a stray bullet done to be responsible? What have minority groups like the Bantus who are known to be peaceful agriculturists done to be responsible?