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Racism in Islam

Postby *Nobleman* » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:26 pm

Brilliant programme I caught by accident yesterday night on Iqra TV. The programme should of actually been called racism amongst muslims, as Islam has clear stance against racism.

The most interesting thing was a sheik called Abu Hanifa who was a guest on the topical discussion. The brother travelled far and wide in order to seek knowledge and was telling some of the stories of racism he experienced in Muslim countries. The sheikh was Nigerian and Mansha'Allah he gave a great qutbah on Islams stance against racism.

Some of his interesting and shocking stories were for example when he was sitting listening to a kutbah by a sheikh in Yemen or another Arab country. The kutbah was about marriage and the sheikh was encouraging the group to ensure that deen should be the most important factor when selecting a spouse. The sheikh went onto to say that one should even forgo looks and instead choose deen and mannerism, even if the lady is black but is still a pious muslimah. This was obviously shocking because the sheikh was equating black with ugly, even though his intentions were obviously good. This could be because of ignorance as opposed to racism, but I personally feel this sentiment is deeply embedded in the culture of many muslim countries.

Another shocking story is a story he heard that he was narrating. He talked about how a mixed race brother travelled to Yemen and met with a renowned scholar of hadith. The sheikh asked the brother if he was married, the brother replied yes and the sheikh went on to ask him where his wife was from. The brother then replied Nigeria, when the sheikh began to giggle and reply how do you find a nigerian lady attractive.

Obviously these stories could be one off cases. But the panel of three black muslim brothers all shared multiple stories of racism that they faced in an Islamic setting from other muslims not returning salam to as bad as being refused an arab or somali lady for marriage merely for their skin colour. The funny thing was the white brother in the panel said he has never ever faced any racism of this sort. Coincidence or racism?

We do not even need to look far for racism. Just recall that topic from yesterday when many of the guys on these boards were racially insulting the nigerian guy marrying the somali lady, based on a simple picture. Little could they know that they groom could of even been muslim.

Sad issue that affects muslims but is rarely ever discussed in the open.

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Re: Racism in Islam

Postby The_Patriot » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:32 pm

noble you went too far

have you not seen a HJ dude being refused to marry a HW lady he likes cos the family could not allow it?

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Re: Racism in Islam

Postby Ka darag » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:33 pm

People need to stop using words like jareer and adoon and whatnot...these are derogatory terms. Islam is clearly anti-racism :up: I think racist views are more common amongst the older generations. :clap:

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Re: Racism in Islam

Postby Ka darag » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:38 pm

noble you went too far

have you not seen a HJ dude being refused to marry a HW lady he likes cos the family could not allow it?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I have a better story :clap: :clap: :clap:

There was this young woman...a guy approached her fam cos he wanted to marry her and make it halal...the girl is HY , but the guy is Darood...anywho, he went to her house and the mother took the piss and put him down...can't remember her exact words :? :? , but she basically told him to eff off...then, the relationship ended...a little 'accident' happened afterwards and the girl fell pregnant....the woman goes... 'come marry my daughter now'...he told her to eff off ..and this was cos she took the piss before when he asked to marry her daughter ... :shock: :shock: :shock: sad innit? :|

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Re: Racism in Islam

Postby *Nobleman* » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:38 pm

noble you went too far

have you not seen a HJ dude being refused to marry a HW lady he likes cos the family could not allow it?

To far in what sense bro?

I have def seen many refusal based on qabils, but whats new? just as bad as racism in my opinion.


Ka darag- I def agree :up:

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Re: Racism in Islam

Postby The_Patriot » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:40 pm

noble you went too far

have you not seen a HJ dude being refused to marry a HW lady he likes cos the family could not allow it?

To far in what sense bro?

I have def seen many refusal based on qabils, but whats new? just as bad as racism in my opinion.


Ka darag- I def agree :up:
Noble we somalis hate our own kind what do you expect ? I beleive nothing more than extending it outwards.

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Re: Racism in Islam

Postby Basra- » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:41 pm

Noble majeerten, GET OFF your high horse and come down to earth. You know racism exist in this world, it is a human condition that is embeded since Bilaal days. It is a fact of the earth. I do agree with you that muslim should put Allaah swt and diin first beyond anything else-- but doing that-- will make us NOT human. To be Human is to be flawed. To be Human is to need our diin and our Allaah swt. We cannot be perfect, and be human at the same time. The Nigerian Sheikh was NOT equating black with ugly--but he was equating black with least desirable in the marriage market. He was fishing for an arab bride. If he thinks black brides are best of all, why cant he--himself go marry a fellow black muslim bride? I know why---becuase to him---arab muslim women, are physically attractive to him. End of story. :clap:

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Re: Racism in Islam

Postby Cali_Gaab » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:42 pm

noble you went too far

have you not seen a HJ dude being refused to marry a HW lady he likes cos the family could not allow it?
Bullshit, and wtf is HW?

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Re: Racism in Islam

Postby Ka darag » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:43 pm

Gaab , Habar Awal duh :roll:

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Re: Racism in Islam

Postby The_Patriot » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:46 pm

noble you went too far

have you not seen a HJ dude being refused to marry a HW lady he likes cos the family could not allow it?
Bullshit, and wtf is HW?
sorry HA

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Re: Racism in Islam

Postby *Nobleman* » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:47 pm

Basra I am not majerteen

Maybe I am to idealist, maybe no matter how wrong racism, is its part and parcel of life. What bugs me is why is it always the darker the skin colour the worst racism one experiences?
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Re: Racism in Islam

Postby The_Patriot » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:48 pm

Basra I am not majerteen

Maybe I am to idealist, maybe no matter how wrong racism is its part and parcel of life. What bugs me is why is it always the darker the skin colour the worst racism on experiences?
because the darker skin forgot to use the Diana creme :mrgreen:

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Re: Racism in Islam

Postby Cali_Gaab » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:48 pm

Patriot, what are these recordings from paltalk supposed to proof?

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Re: Racism in Islam

Postby The_Patriot » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:49 pm

Patriot, what are these recordings from paltalk supposed to proof?
That we are all beyond racism 8-)

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Re: Racism in Islam

Postby Cali_Gaab » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:52 pm

I really don't get it. Sad attempt at whatever you were trying to do if you'd ask me.


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