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[XimanJaale]

That wasn't a religous manner at all. It was a matter of spreading war booty. He made a mistake in the way he talked to our nabi and didn't think of what the nabi was really doing. He made a mistake, doesn't mean the man is a khawarij or anything like that, based on that one statement.

Khawaarij came in the first Islamic civil war. None were around during the time of the prophet. You are wrong. Its ok to admit you're wrong you know. You're not gonna rewrite history now.

Surely if there were khawarij during the time of the nabi he would have told us these men are khawarij but he never did. Everything he mentioned about khawarij was there will come...meaning they weren't currently there.

Look at the explanation!!! Saxib I know everything about Khaawarij

u actually know very little. U took one hadith, where someone made a mistake and now you're beating it to death.

If that man was a khawarij surely our nabi would have told us that these people are khawarij. He would have kicked them out. He would of waged war on them.

That one hadith doesn't even tell the whole story. After the saxaabi said those words, did the nabi call him a kaffir? Cause the explanation u gave called the saxaabi a kaffir.

Why is when the nabi talks about khawarij its always in a future tense?

You are wrong. Its ok to admit it, u can't rewrite history

I ain't rewriting no history!!!

Khaawarij is a 'name' of the people of that man's kind, the 'people' of that man's characteristics were increasing since the death of the nabi, however they did not wage a war against the Muslims and came significant during the battle of siffin. The prophet did not call them Khaawarij but he called them a 'group' ("There will come a time when a group of people will leave our ranks. They will recite the Quran with fervour and passion (lit. "With tongues that are moist".) but its spirit will not go beyond their throats. They will leave our ranks in the manner of an arrow when it shoots from its bow."), is to warn us of the those people of that have the same characterisitcs as the 'man' that rebbeld against the prophet SCW.

[Shirib]

So can u conclude that since there will come a group, that they weren't already there. Meaning that they were not there during the time of the prophet.

Come on dude, you're losing it. Everyone knows that the khawarij came during the Islamic civil war. Why are u trying to say otherwise.

[XimanJaale]

So can u conclude that since there will come a group, that they weren't already there. Meaning that they were not there during the time of the prophet.

Come on dude, you're losing it. Everyone knows that the khawarij came during the Islamic civil war. Why are u trying to say otherwise.

The group 'khawarij' first of its kind came during the prophet SCW period, see the first hadith, the hadith explains to us the characteristic of the man, however there was no uprise of the people of that man characteristics and the prophet SCW warns us that there will a 'uprise' of people of that man's characteristics. Listen to part 2 of the video i uploaded, the sheik is explaining wat iam trying to tell u, if u dont arabic ask hyperactive to translate 4 u. Also enough with that petty tone.

[Shirib]

So can u conclude that since there will come a group, that they weren't already there. Meaning that they were not there during the time of the prophet.

Come on dude, you're losing it. Everyone knows that the khawarij came during the Islamic civil war. Why are u trying to say otherwise.

The group 'khawarij' first of its kind came during the prophet SCW period, see the first hadith, the hadith explains to us the characteristic of the man, however there was no uprise of the people of that man characteristics and the prophet SCW warns us that there will a 'uprise' of people of that man's characteristics. Listen to part 2 of the video i uploaded, the sheik is explaining wat iam trying to tell u, if u dont arabic ask hyperactive to translate 4 u. Also enough with that petty tone.

Ximan, aboowe the only thing that we can conclude by that hadith is that the saxaabi made a mistake.

We can't say anymore than that. The rest is all assumptions. We don't know anymore than a single sentence. Do u know if the saxaabi aplogized afterwards or not? Do u know what he went on to do? The explanation of the hadith called him a gaal for god sakes. The entire explanation is baseless.

U can't judge a person on one thing, and that's what the explanation. People make mistakes after all. If indeed he was a khawarij and bad and all, more would of said about it during that time. But all u have is one hadith where a saxaabi made a mistake, and commmentary that is done centuries later, to try and prove a point.

The khawarij didn't exist in the time of the prophet, they came in the time of the civil war. Their history is well documented.

[XimanJaale]

So can u conclude that since there will come a group, that they weren't already there. Meaning that they were not there during the time of the prophet.

Come on dude, you're losing it. Everyone knows that the khawarij came during the Islamic civil war. Why are u trying to say otherwise.

The group 'khawarij' first of its kind came during the prophet SCW period, see the first hadith, the hadith explains to us the characteristic of the man, however there was no uprise of the people of that man characteristics and the prophet SCW warns us that there will a 'uprise' of people of that man's characteristics. Listen to part 2 of the video i uploaded, the sheik is explaining wat iam trying to tell u, if u dont arabic ask hyperactive to translate 4 u. Also enough with that petty tone.

Ximan, aboowe the only thing that we can conclude by that hadith is that the saxaabi made a mistake.

We can't say anymore than that. The rest is all assumptions. We don't know anymore than a single sentence. Do u know if the saxaabi aplogized afterwards or not? Do u know what he went on to do? The explanation of the hadith called him a gaal for god sakes. The entire explanation is baseless.

U can't judge a person on one thing, and that's what the explanation. People make mistakes after all. If indeed he was a khawarij and bad and all, more would of said about it during that time. But all u have is one hadith where a saxaabi made a mistake, and commmentary that is done centuries later, to try and prove a point.

The khawarij didn't exist in the time of the prophet, they came in the time of the civil war. Their history is well documented.

when the man said that, the prophet SCW response 'if i do not do justice, then who else will do it?' after that Umar radiyallahu canhu was angry and said 'o prophet of allah, should we kill this person?' the prophet SCW then said 'leave him, there are many like him! If some of you compare their prayers with your prayers, and your fasting with their fasting, you will find yourself far behind them. They will escape from the faith as the arrow pierces through the game!'. Just watch the video brother or go ask ur local scholar.

[omar07]

There are no khawaarjis in Somalia

And there is no Somaliland

[eyes-only]

That's a bit extreme isn't it? Not the sort of message anyone around me would be interested in.

[Basra-]

[quote="eyes-only"]That's a bit extreme isn't it? Not the sort of message anyone around me would be interested in.[/quote]

[kismayogedojubaland]

my father hates sufes

[XimanJaale]

my father hates sufes

This message has nothing to do with Suufi's, and majority of Somali scholars outside Somalia arent Suufi and Tabliq. They all condem Al Shabab, majority of them call Al Shabab khaawarij and some say that Al Shabab are bunch of youth with no knowledge. Anyways suufi have great knowledge however some do bidcah like the Qaadiriyas.

[Jamac_Yare]

you wouldnt say they are khawarij if they were marexaan

[XimanJaale]

you wouldnt say they are khawarij if they were marexaan

Unfortanetly there are Marexaan that are with Al Shabab and those are going to be killed by Barre Hiiraale soldiers soon inshallah, Jamac i think u have no clue about Somalia.

[Jamac_Yare]

you wouldnt say they are khawarij if they were marexaan

Unfortanetly there are Marexaan that are with Al Shabab and those are going to be killed by Barre Hiiraale soldiers soon inshallah, Jamac i think u have no clue about Somalia.

there are some due to their reer abtis being hawiye
but if 90% were al shabab you be praising them like second coming of Afweyne in the form of jesus

[XimanJaale]

you wouldnt say they are khawarij if they were marexaan

Unfortanetly there are Marexaan that are with Al Shabab and those are going to be killed by Barre Hiiraale soldiers soon inshallah, Jamac i think u have no clue about Somalia.

there are some due to their reer abtis being hawiye
but if 90% were al shabab you be praising them like second coming of Afweyne in the form of jesus

WTF r u talking about? Reer abti being hawiye??? Ur one confused iidoor! Keep away from khaat! Haha kulaha their reer abti are hawiye. Xoolo foqol xoolo

[Jamac_Yare]

WTF r u talking about? Reer abti being hawiye??? Ur one confused iidoor! Keep away from khaat! Haha kulaha their reer abti are hawiye. Xoolo foqol xoolo

waryaa am not cagdheer kii patriot haa isku walwalin afweyne kugu aag asii doona xabala nigeria dheexdood