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Re: To Those Who Think I'm Qabiliste

Postby abdisamad3 » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:22 am

Mashallah, May Allah keep Amiir Mubarak (Xafidullah) safe from the ikhwanists.
The west want to replace him with Albaradie the former UN chief inspector.
shit thats even worse then mubarak then. :down:

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Re: To Those Who Think I'm Qabiliste

Postby Murax » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:26 am

oy murax your such a passivist.. :down:

Its not passivism its pragmatism. Ragg think with their brain and Women think with their emotion. Whether it was Somalia, Egypt now, Pakistan, etc. believe Me wixi laisku haysto Diin maaha waa dunya iyo hanguri. Classic case of ama waan kaa cuna ama waan kaa ciida. Rabshodan muxu ku bilaabay? Wuxu ku bilaabay corruption. Hada corruption wax ka daran baa yimid and maanta a lady cannot walk in Masr and feel safe, and if 3/10 people were unemployed now 10/10 people are unemployed. TFG I don't give a shyt about it, because its not a Government. Laakin Wallahi if it was a Government oo wadanka dhan faraha ku hayo I would be its biggest supporter. Dawlad la'aan waa nolol la'aan laakin us Somalis are so focken retarded, we're the only people on earth who do not learn lessons even after we get burned. Xoolo :down: :down:



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Dee qof kasto can have their ra'yi. Out of being 100% sincere if the people of Egypt should overthrow Hosni Mubaarak by force, then the revolt against MSB was justified. This is being true to my principals.



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Adi I will never debate anything with You waayo, You are like a little girl. Weliga maku arkin adigo sida ragg camal arrimaha ka doodayo. Dood wanaagsan iyo caqli meesha ma keentid only estrogen :down:
so you just want the people to accept everything from their leader even if he abuse them everyday and he is on the payroll of the enemy of his country like xusni mubarak..well thats called passivism sxb.and its not what nin rag ah do..and this is not about emotions its about bringing justice..and if the only you can bring justice is by revolt then thats what people should do..I support the egyptians peoples uprising 100%.
First of all, waxaan ka hadlaayo wuxu sal ku leeyahay Diinta and Worldy common sense. Hadee Diinta noqoto whether You like it or not, the Prophet SAW forbid to rebel against the Muslim Ruler as long as (He's Muslim, and You do not obey Him in disobeying Ilaahay but in worldy matters Yes). Also by Ruler ama Xaakim waxaa laga wada qof oo wadanka gacanta ku hayo in its entirity not like Shareef but Yes like Hosni Mubaarak. Imam Ahmed RH marki lugu dhahay say Quraanka waa makhluuq muusin dhihin, but He didn't tell the people go rebel against this ruler. When Cabdullahi Ibn Cumar RA a great saxaabi was living in the time of Hajaj Bin Yusuf a ruthless dictator, He never rebelled against Him or encouraged anyone to do so. Aduunkaan We're only here for a short time, and then we'll die. If We have a bad ruler We tolerate it until Allah changes Him for someone better. When You try to change it by force, You have bitter power struggles and instead of one Man/group being in control You have several groups doing so. Look at Saddam Xusseen who was another ruthless dictator. When He was there, the Country was in terrible shape but at least the people had safety, infrastructure, and last but not least they had xuriyad in that other foreign Countries were not dictating to them what to do. The first thing that happens when You create a civil war is the state collapses. When the state collapses You become weaker. When You become weaker Your enemies become brave and start controlling You. Now Iraaq which was at least a stable Country is divided between so many countries. Somlaia was taken over by Ethiopia. Egypt if the state collapses will be taken over by Israel. Marka waxay faiidhi doonta these rebellions when in reality all it does is put You under servitude and bondage at the end? MSB AUN Yes, He was a dictator, didn't rule by Quran or Sunnah, etc. but at least when He was here Ethiopia couldn't even cross the border. He was removed by force, and now Ethiopia basically made Somalia zone 6, and maanta Somalia are the guests of all sorts of gaalo countries. Karaamada ama sharafta ee lahayeen turned into dhullinimo. I do not wish that for Egypt or any Country. Anyways this is my two cents, I'm not gonna try to force my opinion on you or Yours on mine. At the end of the day at least aan iis xushmeyno and don't accuse Me of being in a Firqo ama group. Wallahi what I'm saying Here I'm not saying it out of bias ama qablaayd, etc.

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Re: To Those Who Think I'm Qabiliste

Postby Murax » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:28 am

Mashallah, May Allah keep Amiir Mubarak (Xafidullah) safe from the ikhwanists.
The west want to replace him with Albaradie the former UN chief inspector.
shit thats even worse then mubarak then. :down:

Whether it was Somalia before or Egypt now, I'm telling You. Wixi laisku haysto waa>>>>kursi+lacag. Whoever gets the kursi in Egypt will turn around and be another Mubaarak. Mark My words.

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Re: To Those Who Think I'm Qabiliste

Postby abdisamad3 » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:35 am

murax..lets understand eachother here horta mubarak is not only a dictator but he allso works for and servers the enemies of islam like zionist state..so he is an enemy of islam..he allso fight anything islamic..and we cant compare siyaad barre with mubarak different stories you know..

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Re: To Those Who Think I'm Qabiliste

Postby Murax » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:39 am

murax..lets understand eachother here horta mubarak is not only a dictator but he allso works for and servers the enemies of islam like zionist state..so he is an enemy of islam..he allso fight anything islamic..and we cant compare siyaad barre with mubarak different stories you know..


Serious question. Do You think the Guy who replaces Mubaarak will be any different? Do You think Cumar Bin Khattab RA is gonna replace him? Lets just assume that He is the same. Then what would be the justification of all the chaos,dhib, struggle etc. to simply get another mubaarak? ALL the opposition leaders of Mubaarak have His same political platform for the most part, its that that they say they are going to be more 'democratic' than the other. Theres no honour amongst thieves weliga ma maqashay? Dadkaan gebigood waa xukun doono.

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Re: To Those Who Think I'm Qabiliste

Postby Basra- » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:47 am

If u thing u r a qabiliiste yourself as i am sure u do, then u r NOT a qabiliiste. Udun,kambuli, qoraxey, seemeyer and co are qabiiste though. :)

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Re: To Those Who Think I'm Qabiliste

Postby Shirib » Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:17 am

Tyranny shall not be accepted. Down with the tyrants. Don't blame the people its Mubaraks fault this is happening.

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Re: To Those Who Think I'm Qabiliste

Postby abdisamad3 » Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:37 am

murax..lets understand eachother here horta mubarak is not only a dictator but he allso works for and servers the enemies of islam like zionist state..so he is an enemy of islam..he allso fight anything islamic..and we cant compare siyaad barre with mubarak different stories you know..


Serious question. Do You think the Guy who replaces Mubaarak will be any different? Do You think Cumar Bin Khattab RA is gonna replace him? Lets just assume that He is the same. Then what would be the justification of all the chaos,dhib, struggle etc. to simply get another mubaarak? ALL the opposition leaders of Mubaarak have His same political platform for the most part, its that that they say they are going to be more 'democratic' than the other. Theres no honour amongst thieves weliga ma maqashay? Dadkaan gebigood waa xukun doono.
sxb allah knows best but I just hope they replace him with a good muslim leader who serve his nation well insha-allah. :up:

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Re: To Those Who Think I'm Qabiliste

Postby ciyaal_warta » Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:43 am

And not look favorably towards the armed oppostition towards, MSB let Me assure You that it is out of 100% principality. Take for Egypt for instance, I am 100% against whats going on. Neighborhoods are without water, stores are being looted, National Artifacts (Egypts 100% source of revenue) being destroyed, People do not feel safe, homes being broke into, etc. etc. etc. The only thing that is happening is legitamate problems (Corruption, Unemployment, Harsh economic conditions) is being compounded into anarchaic chaos. On top of that this opens the door even more for Israel and any other external party to gain more influence in Egypt and carve out bigger and bigger spheres of influence as the State gets weaker and weaker. Ditto for Pakistan and the "Islamic Opposition" that is wreaking havoc across the Country. The bottom line is according to Islam Leaders are the reflection of the people. Egyptians in general are corrupt people and Hosni Mubaarak is a embodiment of that. Somalis are a divided tribal society and their Warlord leaderships are an embodiment of that. The best thing to do is to be patient, better Yourself, better Your family, those around You etc. and eventually bad rulers will go.

now u talking wrong sxb..u should go see the situation of youth in egypt a country whos 70% population are youth under 25 year old and they cant get job and anything they cant even sell fruits in the market...a short term suffering is worth for a long time freedom...and do u know those are doing the chaos are from the secret police just 2 change the demonstrate's mind and make them look criminals...u gota long way 2 learn the situation of arabs...and dont start with islam man :down: :down:

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Re: To Those Who Think I'm Qabiliste

Postby hanqadh » Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:51 am

The Egyptian people are venting there frustration's at a corrupt regime that has crippled them for a very long period.Egyptian society has become corrupt because of the nature of the regimes that have ruled over them post-colonialism, regimes that viewed Islamism as a threat to there rule limiting the space of Islam in Egypt through censorship and other draconian measures.Isreal already has influence over Egypt and the U.S has them on a leash, the damage is done ever since the six-day war the set-up goes beyond this period actually.Mubarak and all the Arab/Muslim tyrants are responsible for the state of the muslim world and Islam today because of the wicked and immoral ways they have spread and there master-slave relation with the west.Allah does not change the condition of the people until they change what's within there soul the egyptian people are speaking and the breeze of Intifada from tunisia is spreading, the best of Jihad is to speak truth to a tyrant and the call for Mubarak to end his rule speaks truth to his brutal regime.This tyrant has no respect for human rights, Islam or just rule opposition to his government is paramount until a better government replaces him.

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Re: To Those Who Think I'm Qabiliste

Postby *Nobleman* » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:12 am

I agree with Murax, a corrupt govt is better than no govt and Somalia is testement to that fact.

Also from the sunnah of the prophet saw, one must advise a corrupt and harsh leader privately and not take matters into his own hands.

Though the difference between egyptians and somalida is when shit gets real, they have an underlying love for their nation and will not let it get too out of hand. Where as somalis are generally the most xasadiin people on the face of the earth. To the average somali its all about themselves, their families and at best their tribe. No sense of nationhood and sacrifice for the greater good. Every man wants to be a leader and not a worker, everyman will only support the president if he is from his tribe only. Honestly speaking the only place nationhood is demonstrated is in Somaliland. Many dislike the tribe of the president, but are willing to make sacrifices for the greater good.

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Postby Complicated19 » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:32 am

Oi nobleman who's that guy on ur avatar? Don't ask why I'm asking :?

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Re: To Those Who Think I'm Qabiliste

Postby AhlulbaytSoldier » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:39 am

When murax says to obey the rulers i agree with him on that but the question is: was prophet pbuh talking about modern leaders such as mubarak, ben ali who are working with the enemies, hate the shariah or was the prophet pbuh talking about the cruel umayyad and abasid rulers who were tyrants yet they ruled with the shariah and didnt obey the kuffars?
I doubt the prophet pbuh meant modern rulers.
Cuz he was talking about muslim leaders, while Allah swt says clearly those who do not rule by the law(leaders who hates the shariah and are not forced by kuffar) are indeed the disbelievers.

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Re: To Those Who Think I'm Qabiliste

Postby 2ndtoNone » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:46 am

The bottom line is according to Islam Leaders are the reflection of the people. Egyptians in general are corrupt people and Hosni Mubaarak is a embodiment of that. Somalis are unpatriotic and a divided tribal society and their Former President Siyad Barre and The Subsequent Warlord leaderships are an embodiment of that. The best thing to do is to be patient, better Yourself, better Your family, those around You etc. and eventually bad rulers will go.
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Re: To Those Who Think I'm Qabiliste

Postby hanqadh » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:53 am

Hutu has a point besides the Saudi regime which claims to abide by the laws of Islam the rest or the vast majority of so-called muslim nations follow man-made laws which contradict the shariah? Shariah in egypt only applies in personal matters...hmm so does the hadith of the rasul(saw) apply and can the hadith have layered meanings which need deeper interpretation from the Culamaa.As far as Egypt religious leaders, men, women and children are calling for his resignation its a unanimous call from the people.


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