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While you might be right about Kabul, the fact of the matter is that the same old warlords (reminds of you somalia innit) control most of the country. In these areas, women are subjected to sexual and other forms of abuse. I remember reading an article which concluded that the status of women had gotten WORSE post-taliban. Women in these areas are still forced to wear the burqa, but unlike in the taliban days, they are subjected to abuse etc.

My view of the taliban is like AL-shabaab: While i respect their intentions in someform, the way they go about things turns me against them.

The warlords are supported by deep tribal allegiances, like Somalia, that are difficult to debase. Each and every day Afghanistan is nonetheless making progress towards equality, and to suggest that women were better off under the taliban is ridiculous. Women were literally imprisoned in their houses nationwide and couldn't leave without being escorted by a male. Women Working was banned, and a girl going to school was an inconceivable idea. How can you "respect" people who forced such jahilnimo on people violently?

But the government doesn't control most of the country. In the areas that they don't control, women are still forced to wear the burqa and still segregated. On top of that, they are subjected to forms of sexual abuse and assault, as well as other un islamic punishments. I'd challenge you to prove me that Women as a whole are better off post-taliban.

The reason why i respect the Taliban's end game is because the Americans invaded their country because they refused to sell out their Muslim brother. If you know anything about the diin of Islam, you should know that even if your brother is in the wrong, you do not give him to the enemy. I don't like the way they go about things (just like Al-shabaab), but that doesn't mean they don't have the right to fight.

Union,

Would you ever want NATOs assistance in dealing with al Shabaab in Somalia? Bombing wedding tents, schools etc with impunity?

I hate al Shabaab, and the Taliban too, but they could never cause as much carnage and destruction as NATO. If you wouldnt want this for Somalia, I'm just assuming you care about Somali people here , you shouldn't want it for the Afghan people either.

They should just arm the hell out of their warlords and leave, they're ones are 100% more ruthless than the Somali ones, they've proven to be quite effective against the Taliban too.

melo aka union


it still amazes me how u can create a thread and imaginery character to contrast opposing opinions-- and get the juice fuel charged on. Seriously, is that necessary?

melo, whats the difference between AMISOM & NATO?

Aracades, I would love for NATO to bomb Al Shabab out of existence. Somalia is a narrow strip of land on the coast of the Indian Ocean, if the powers that be wanted to they could easily surgically assassinate Al Shabab's leadership and throw them into disarray. However the status quo fits their agendas so they ignore the problem.

melo, whats the difference between AMISOM & NATO?

That's an irrelevant question. Al-shabaab believe that that is xalaal to brutalize civilians if you can get 1 or 2 cadows. This is their religion and why i refuse to support them. The same with the talibaan.

melo aka union


it still amazes me how u can create a thread and imaginery character to contrast opposing opinions-- and get the juice fuel charged on. Seriously, is that necessary?

That's offensive walahi .

I'm sure you can check our ips and see we are not the same people.

While you might be right about Kabul, the fact of the matter is that the same old warlords (reminds of you somalia innit) control most of the country. In these areas, women are subjected to sexual and other forms of abuse. I remember reading an article which concluded that the status of women had gotten WORSE post-taliban. Women in these areas are still forced to wear the burqa, but unlike in the taliban days, they are subjected to abuse etc.

My view of the taliban is like AL-shabaab: While i respect their intentions in someform, the way they go about things turns me against them.

The warlords are supported by deep tribal allegiances, like Somalia, that are difficult to debase. Each and every day Afghanistan is nonetheless making progress towards equality, and to suggest that women were better off under the taliban is ridiculous. Women were literally imprisoned in their houses nationwide and couldn't leave without being escorted by a male. Women Working was banned, and a girl going to school was an inconceivable idea. How can you "respect" people who forced such jahilnimo on people violently?

But the government doesn't control most of the country. In the areas that they don't control, women are still forced to wear the burqa and still segregated. On top of that, they are subjected to forms of sexual abuse and assault, as well as other un islamic punishments. I'd challenge you to prove me that Women as a whole are better off post-taliban.

The reason why i respect the Taliban's end game is because the Americans invaded their country because they refused to sell out their Muslim brother. If you know anything about the diin of Islam, you should know that even if your brother is in the wrong, you do not give him to the enemy. I don't like the way they go about things (just like Al-shabaab), but that doesn't mean they don't have the right to fight.

Let me make this point clear, a man who orchestrated the killing of 3,00 innocent people, including dozens of Muslims, is not my "brother", and not only would I hand him over, I'd gladly end his pathetic life myself. It says something about your character that you would embrace him as such.

You seem to love the taliban, were you mullah omar's bitch boy while you were being trained by al shabab in kashmir?

With all due respect, your opinion doesn't matter. What OBL did not make him a kaafir. As such, he is still your muslim brother.

With all due respect, your opinion doesn't matter. What OBL did not make him a kaafir. As such, he is still your muslim brother.

With all due respect OBL is hiding in a cave and the second he comes out he'll be killed, if he isn't dead already.

Brother melo, where do you get this information from? Lets remember the kuffar is bombarding us with propaganda against Xarakat Al Shabab. Lets remember bro only in caasimada Muqdisho the African crusaders have shelled and killed 4,200 civilians in 2010 alone and thats only the Medina hospital number. All areas under Xarakat Al Shabab are peaceful. Al Shabab kills very little compared to the fufus. Al Shabab has the right to remove foreigners.

Aracades, I would love for NATO to bomb Al Shabab out of existence. Somalia is a narrow strip of land on the coast of the Indian Ocean, if the powers that be wanted to they could easily surgically assassinate Al Shabab's leadership and throw them into disarray. However the status quo fits their agendas so they ignore the problem.

The US has assassinated al Shabaabs prominent leaders, Ceyrow and the Arab dude, the current leadership aren't that impressive, they're not the problem, its the weak TFG. So you would support NATO style indiscriminate airstrikes to take out the rest of the (shit) leadership?

With all due respect, your opinion doesn't matter. What OBL did not make him a kaafir. As such, he is still your muslim brother.

With all due respect OBL is hiding in a cave and the second he comes out he'll be killed, if he isn't dead already.

OBL being out there is good for the united states. Convinces the american population that there is a boogey man still out there, who wants to harm them. Fear allows governments to pass draconian laws. Herman Goering's quote at the nuremberg trials come to mind.

Brother melo, where do you get this information from? Lets remember the kuffar is bombarding us with propaganda against Xarakat Al Shabab. Lets remember bro only in caasimada Muqdisho the African crusaders have shelled and killed 4,200 civilians in 2010 alone and thats only the Medina hospital number. All areas under Xarakat Al Shabab are peaceful. Al Shabab kills very little compared to the fufus. Al Shabab has the right to remove foreigners.

Bal ii sheeg, ya qarxiyeey hotel shaamow?

Women post-Taliban

Grandpa, when did you get over Al Shabab slaughtering your uncle like a lamb?