Re: King Abdullah returns home
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:58 pm
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Chopping off hands is not a "deterrent" but a despicable practice that has no place in the 21st century. It also has no basis in Islam, and is banned in dozens of enlightened Muslim nations like Turkey, Syria, Jordan, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc. To combat crime, a soceity need to reduce poverty and increase spending on education, and then crime rates will go down. Nations like Finland have very low crime rates because of this, and not because of threats of cruel and usual punishment. What will chopping off someone's hand do? It will only make them poorer because they won't be able to work as efficiently, and thus more likely to steal. It simply doesn't make sense.
Islam doesn't need a reformation, it simply needs to cleanse itself of the radical elements that have hijacked the religion and have reduced it from being foremost in the world in enlightened thought, back to the ignorance and barbarity you advocate for.
Also, I'd like to call you out on your hypocrisy. For someone who obviously has a disdain for democracy and secular soceity, it's funny how you've decided to live in a soceity that extols these principles. How would these societies have turned out had they let their radical religions run things? Hadn't it been for people who stood up for what's right, The Catholic Church would still be burning scientists and would control political power and everybody would be a great deal more miserable. Put your money where you mouth is and fuck off to some desert town in Mauritania if you want theocracy so badly.
Also, if you think saying "non believer" and "kafir" is going to silence me think again. Those terms are used so often around here that they've long lost their shock factor. You bloody kaffir.
Chopping off hands is not a "deterrent" but a despicable practice that has no place in the 21st century. It also has no basis in Islam, and is banned in dozens of enlightened Muslim nations like Turkey, Syria, Jordan, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc. To combat crime, a soceity need to reduce poverty and increase spending on education, and then crime rates will go down. Nations like Finland have very low crime rates because of this, and not because of threats of cruel and usual punishment. What will chopping off someone's hand do? It will only make them poorer because they won't be able to work as efficiently, and thus more likely to steal. It simply doesn't make sense.
Islam doesn't need a reformation, it simply needs to cleanse itself of the radical elements that have hijacked the religion and have reduced it from being foremost in the world in enlightened thought, back to the ignorance and barbarity you advocate for.
Also, I'd like to call you out on your hypocrisy. For someone who obviously has a disdain for democracy and secular soceity, it's funny how you've decided to live in a soceity that extols these principles. How would these societies have turned out had they let their radical religions run things? Hadn't it been for people who stood up for what's right, The Catholic Church would still be burning scientists and would control political power and everybody would be a great deal more miserable. Put your money where you mouth is and fuck off to some desert town in Mauritania if you want theocracy so badly.
Also, if you think saying "non believer" and "kafir" is going to silence me think again. Those terms are used so often around here that they've long lost their shock factor. You bloody kaffir.
