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Re: One way of advancing our society

Postby samadoon-waaxid » Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:14 am

Union,dude.you make some disastrous assertions and borderline fascist remarks,and the one would think you were a soft leftie who believes in second opportunity at life for everyone :down:

We need intelligent co-ethnics in order to advance as a soceity. The number of Somali people with advanced degrees is quite low, numbering in a few hundred at the most,
where do you get your stats from? somali students in north america alone are in 4 figures if not more? :?


1.) Administer IQ tests to all children in Somalia and submit the results to a National Education Council.
even a chinese educator would frown upon such idea.if kid's intelligence was to be judged at a tender age then what you gonna do with late bloomers?
2.) Kids scoring in the 99th percentile should be selected for special government scholarships paying for their education
abroad from secondary school through university. The Government should set up a special fund for this.
thats a no brainer,every country in the third world does it now.and all the past somali governments did it,heck even the weak TFG gets scholarships in hundreds.
3.) People with advanced degrees should be encouraged to enter into polygamous relationships, preferably with intelligent women.


this sounds to me like a trick out of a araian supremist somali natzist book.do you know know how authoritarian of a state it would take to administer such outlandish policies?
Intelligence is at least 50% hereditary.
and your proof is ?
Previous Somali governments have allocated scholarships based upon tribe and other nonsense,
false,all scholarships were suppose to go to the samrtest,at least on paper, but it was always,and is today distributed based on neotism,favorism,tribalism and all the other bad isms.thus,the problem is in the excution and not in the policies themselves.

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Re: One way of advancing our society

Postby gurey25 » Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:29 am

You want to increase the intelligence of the population?

Easy provide adequate nutrition to everyone.

Lack of nutrition causes brain damage in children and is responsible for a large drop in IQ rates..

that starving glue sniffing kid in our slums could be the next einstien, if you could simply proide him with a home and a warm meal.

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Re: One way of advancing our society

Postby Basra- » Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:31 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


union aka ciyaal .....u have big dreams walaal. :roll:

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Re: One way of advancing our society

Postby LiquidHYDROGEN » Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:39 am

You want to increase the intelligence of the population?

Easy provide adequate nutrition to everyone.

Lack of nutrition causes brain damage in children and is responsible for a large drop in IQ rates..

that starving glue sniffing kid in our slums could be the next einstien, if you could simply proide him with a home and a warm meal.
Nutrition and education are key to establishing a healthy (mentally and physically) and balanced population - it is especially vital at an early age from birth to early adolescence.

BTW I've noticed that you've heard of the big problem of glue-sniffing street children back home. Walaahi we're in a terrible state. I've heard of an interesting initiative by and organisation that allows well-off adults (both diaspora and native Somalilanders) to sponsor and pay for the eductation and housing of neglected street children in Somaliland. They even take you through step-by-step with how the money you've donated is being used and encourage correspondence between you and the child you're helping (I think it's for the child to see who's helped them). I'm thinking of doing it - I thinks it's about £20 a month.

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Re: One way of advancing our society

Postby waryaa » Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:42 am

it is time for many of you to wake up from that delusional dream and accept the fact that charity starts at home. Instead of being burned out by somalia problems why don't you worry about your neighborhoods and the society you live in. You can't live in hiatus forever.

Embrace and integrate my friends :P

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Re: One way of advancing our society

Postby Hyperactive » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:02 am

it is time for many of you to wake up from that delusional dream and accept the fact that charity starts at home. Instead of being burned out by somalia problems why don't you worry about your neighborhoods and the society you live in. You can't live in hiatus forever.

Embrace and integrate my friends :P
it's cyber dream. f you dont advance your self cannot do for others.

plus somalis whatever they're educated or nit still have that tribal mentality and this is my kin's land and no one else nonesense. dont look further than this place.

i would say; destroy qabaliya and hate for others from new generations mind then we progress .

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Re: One way of advancing our society

Postby Voltage » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:12 am

Union you shouldn't be so obtuse. Saying intelligence is hereditary and saying intelligence is partially hereditary or has hereditary influence are two different things. Second, what kind of intelligence are you talking about? The intelligence to read and write and do calculus or the intelligence to come up with the theory of relativity? Those are also two different things.

No amount of inherited intelligence will make you intelligent unless nurtured (skills developed through education) and at the same time no amount of nurturing can make you come up with E=mc^2. The kind of intelligence which society acknowledges as intelligent can be bred no matter what your inheritance. Look at the inventions by Blacks in America versus the state of Africans in Africa. More modern inventions have been developed by American blacks from peanut butter, the cotton gin, traffic lights, first open heart surgery, etc than was invented by all modern whites in Europe (not North America). To make Somali society "intelligent" (not supra-intelligent like Einstein, although I am sure we have our own unique Einsteins but untapped) all that needs to be done is tackle education.

You take a German boy and raise him in a African village and take a Congolese boy and put him through private German education and the difference will be stark clear.
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Re: One way of advancing our society

Postby Shirwac_1 » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:13 am

An honest leadershipe with the support of its citizens. That is all it takes!

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Re: One way of advancing our society

Postby Voltage » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:17 am

You want to increase the intelligence of the population?

Easy provide adequate nutrition to everyone.

Lack of nutrition causes brain damage in children and is responsible for a large drop in IQ rates..

that starving glue sniffing kid in our slums could be the next einstien, if you could simply proide him with a home and a warm meal.
100%. No amount of tall genes can make you reach your full height with stunted development (malnutrition). Malnutrition and lack of education has stunted many in Africa but if nurtured in a good environment, the difference is crystal clear. Look at the average IQ of Nigeria and then see how Nigerian-Americans and British Nigerians are the most successful people in both of those countries, bar non the most successful specific ethno-national stock.

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Re: One way of advancing our society

Postby waryaa » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:22 am

it's cyber dream. f you dont advance your self cannot do for others.
bro hyper we are one big dysfunctional family ...
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by the way, that's one really funny movie @ the end.

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Re: One way of advancing our society

Postby Shirwac_1 » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:29 am

voltage,


When u say that Nigerians in Nigeria are less succesfule then those in the west, dont u think that has something to do with whats availeble for them?

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Re: One way of advancing our society

Postby Voltage » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:49 am

Well yeah that's what I meant

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Re: One way of advancing our society

Postby Hyperactive » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:00 am

it's cyber dream. f you dont advance your self cannot do for others.
bro hyper we are one big dysfunctional family ...
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by the way, that's one really funny movie @ the end.
what's the name of the movie, i may rent it :lol:

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Re: One way of advancing our society

Postby waryaa » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:20 am

hyper. "miss little sunshine" or something close - it is hilarious. u'll love it.

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Re: One way of advancing our society

Postby union » Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:21 pm

Union you shouldn't be so obtuse. Saying intelligence is hereditary and saying intelligence is partially hereditary or has hereditary influence are two different things. Second, what kind of intelligence are you talking about? The intelligence to read and write and do calculus or the intelligence to come up with the theory of relativity? Those are also two different things.

No amount of inherited intelligence will make you intelligent unless nurtured (skills developed through education) and at the same time no amount of nurturing can make you come up with E=mc^2. The kind of intelligence which society acknowledges as intelligent can be bred no matter what your inheritance. Look at the inventions by Blacks in America versus the state of Africans in Africa. More modern inventions have been developed by American blacks from peanut butter, the cotton gin, traffic lights, first open heart surgery, etc than was invented by all modern whites in Europe (not North America). To make Somali society "intelligent" (not supra-intelligent like Einstein, although I am sure we have our own unique Einsteins but untapped) all that needs to be done is tackle education.

You take a German boy and raise him in a African village and take a Congolese boy and put him through private German education and the difference will be stark clear.
Improving the educational system supporting all Somali kids should obviously be a priority, but that will take many years and a lot of money. All I am suggesting is finding the kids who already very bright naturally and funding their education abroad so they can return and be the professionals Somalia needs. I am sure that you as science student will realize that modern research supports the fact that intelligence differs between individuals, and I'm not talking about the intelligence required by average individuals to preform average functions, but rather the intelligence required to do well in a curved science class.


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