FUCK Saudi Arabia: Wahabbism has destroyed the Somali People

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

Do you know what the average Saudi gets to dress like a ninja, abandon their culture, and lose many freedoms? Several thousand untaxed dollars a month, free energy, subsidized housing, free health care, free education for life, & guaranteed political and economic stability.

Do you know what the average Somali gets to dress like a ninja, abandon their culture, and lose many freedoms? Nothing, perhaps a free Saudi pamphlet and hand-me-downs from Qatar.

Sounds like a raw deal, but at least we know why Saudis put up with that BS - what the fuck do Somalis get out of wrapping themselves to death? I literally can't think of one incentive. Somalis act like their religion is a contest; they think bowing one extra time will get them to a better afterlife, they think one extra cloth on their head will get them to a better afterlife, this race is endless. If you think I'm being irrational just look at today's Somali people; even men have dressed themselves up like ninjas with cimaamad and other bullshit, like its going to increase their iimaan - don't these morons know that Najdis wear ninja clothes to protect against sand storms and extreme desert heat? How the fuck is wearing cimaamad in tropical Marka going to be beneficial? Alongside the Pashtuns, northern Nigerians, and the Chechens, we are literally among the VERY few super-fundamentalist societies in the Muslim world; and its not our nature, blame the Saudi trash for expelling their excrement onto our shores; both their cultural excrement and their violent political excrement. Its also coincidental that the cultures I named above are the most unique in the Muslim world, and now they're gone.

Firstly, I strongly praise the work being done by members of the transitional government and even diaspora communities. No longer are people just fighting militant terrorism, they are fighting the extreme nature of the values of the terrorists - they are fighting terrorist CULTURE. To us, their beliefs and worldview are more dangerous than their guns. This is something I've lobbied against ever since the Union of Terrorist Courts came to power in 2006. Its good to see that in 2011, every clan understands the evils of the terrorist plague. This is something I've been disgusted with for most of my life.

It makes me feel good that members of the Somali community are finally hitting out at the cultural baggage of Wahabbism, its the biggest point of contempt for me. I am part of the post-anarchy generation of Somalis, all my life I've been accustomed to seeing ninja-wrapped Somali women, I'm simply accustomed to the warped Somali culture of the post-war era and its so unfortunate - its foreign for me to see Somalis reciting poetry or women having dance-offs. Most of us are accustomed to this Wahabbist perversion of our culture and religion. But now we can all do something drastic to change the situation.

But with this, understand that it isn't about politics or militancy; its about culture. These ugly faggots need to go cover up those big nosed Saudi bitches before trying to put a lid on our women. Isn't it sad that the most beautiful and celebrated women on earth are being erased and hidden? If any nations need to cover up their women, it is the Arabs. From Egypt to Iraq, these hairy monsters go around telling us about modesty when their hook nosed neanderthal women are parading around the streets exposed to mens' eyes.

I will not stand for this bullshit any longer. Why the fuck did we all lie down and accept Wahabbism so easily in the last generation? We used to grill Wahabbis for lunch breakfast and dinner, but now we view them with respect? Disgusting. Its still a point of pride that the state of Puntland grilled these fuckers in the early 90s, what a good precedent, its too bad that the Wahabbists invaded Puntland through cultural indoctrination. I'm angry that I wasn't born in 1960 or 1970 so I could've put this shit to rest, I was barely walking when this plague was spreading among our people.

Sufi Muslims, members of parliament, militia strongmen, Somali state leaders, secular proponents, and Somali patriots - we are now banding together and we WILL return Somalia to its old glory; when our culema were soft-spoken Sufis, when our leaders were Somali-first, when our cultural elite were enthusiasts of Somalinimo!

A warlord can take your money, but a Wahabbist takes your identity. You can't trade security for freedom. One is temporary, the other is permanent; think about your children.

That's all I have to say on this subject but reasonable people will understand.

[XaliimoFarax]

YOU'RE FAR MORE PRECIOUS THAN DIAMONDS AND PEARLS

“If memory serves me correctly, I was wearing a little white tank top and a
short black skirt. I had been raised Orthodox Muslim, so I had never before
worn such revealing clothing while in my father’s presence. When we finally
arrived, the chauffer escorted my younger sister, Laila, and me up to my
father's suite.

As usual, he was hiding behind the door waiting to scare us. We exchanged
many hugs and kisses as we could possibly give in one day. My father took a
good look at us. Then he sat me down on his lap and said something that I
will never forget.

He looked me straight in the eyes and said, “Hana, everything that God
made valuable in the world is covered and hard to get to. Where do you find
diamonds? Deep down in the ground covered and protected. Where do you
find pearls? Deep down at the bottom of the ocean covered up and protected in a beautiful shell.

Where do you find gold? Way down in the mine, covered over with layers and layers of rock.

You’ve got to work hard to get to them.”
He looked at me with serious eyes. “Your body is sacred. You’re far more precious than diamonds and pearls, and you should be covered too.”

Source: More Than A Hero: Muhammad Ali’s Life Lessons Through His Daughter’s Eyes.

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What a rant.

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

YOU'RE FAR MORE PRECIOUS THAN DIAMONDS AND PEARLS

Terrible analogy. Somali traditional clothing is already modest, unless you're trying to tell us that its not. We are modest people by nature and our clothing reflects that. There is a difference between modesty and ridiculousness. We are from Somalia, not the Najd.

[Cali_Gaab]

Ok, wait....you don't like it when women wear the veil in Western countries?

You should come to london, you'll have 1 or 2 sitting in the same carriage as you on the London underground on a boiling summers day wearing even black gloves.

[XaliimoFarax]

^^^Somali traditional clothing is nice but it should be limited in your own home because it is not within islamically code of dress.

Abbowe somalia has many problems but ‘ninja clothing’ as you say is NOTone of them. If anything else more covering up would be needed.

So would you force women to wear lesser clothing because it’s not within you’re view? Plus why the hell does a grown man care about what women wear?

[Cali_Gaab]

Xaliimo, it gets on my nerves when i see somali women walking down the high street with those jilbaabs covering their top half while they expose their legs by lifting up their baati with multi coloured flowers. There's decency and then there's nacasnimo.

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

Ok, wait....you don't like it when women wear the veil in Western countries?

You should come to london, you'll have 1 or 2 sitting in the same carriage as you on the London underground on a boiling summers day wearing even black gloves.

NO SIR. When I see them, all I want to do is pull a gun out and get rid of them at the scene. Damn, there are probably less than 3 things that really piss me off more than ninja-wearing females, especially when its not enforced or rewarded.

^^^Somali traditional clothing is nice but it should be limited in your own home because it is not within islamically code of dress.

Abbowe somalia has many problems but ‘ninja clothing’ as you say is NOTone of them. If anything else more covering up would be needed.

So would you force women to wear lesser clothing because it’s not within you’re view? Plus why the hell does a grown man care about what women wear?

Please explain to me how the FUCK ON EARTH you can cover this thing up even more!

The next step is to just put her in a sack----and throw her in the ocean.

[Cali_Gaab]

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Gotta love her nails though.

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

I'm going to document the Evolution of the Modern Somali Woman:


First Phase - here she was absolutely perfect, in both size and modesty



Second Phase - the transformation has begun



Third Phase - the point of no return, this is when they first enter the West



Death Phase - by this point the Somali woman has been replaced by a monolithic robot made up entirely of sheets, there is not even a person inside, just more sheets

[XaliimoFarax]

Cali_ yea that's called mixing diin with culture it just doesn't look right. What's even more funnier is when women want to shake men's hand and they get their jilbaab to cover their hands and still shake men's hands. They think this is ok because there is no skin contact

Please explain to me how the FUCK ON EARTH you can cover this thing up even more!

You misunderstood me im talking about traditional somali clothing need to be more covered up if it needs to be in accordance with the diin eg. dirac now that just doesn't cover up plus too colourful.

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

How is traditional clothing not modest, in our culture most women are usually around men of the same clan and family so why do they have to dress up when the biggest stranger they will see is their male cousin or uncle? Somali men are not lustful monsters, so there is no point in covering up, the entire nation is one people who are related, its a family-nation, only ajnabi is outside of the family.

The Sunnah says women should be modest, meaning no sexually revealing clothing - traditional Somali clothing is within those bounds, there are no details beyond "modesty" - so if modesty means wearing a cloth garbage bag for Saudis, it does not have to mean the same for us. Lets not forget, Saudis created this lunacy that plagues Somalia and Afghanistan, and we cannot trust them. These are the same people who suck an Englishman's ceeb and turn around to preach with the same mouth.

[XaliimoFarax]

Hijab is a word that indicates not just the headscarf but clothing in its entirety which meets the following conditions :

1. Clothing must cover the entire body, only the hands and face may remain visible (According to some Fiqh Schools) .

2. The material must not be so thin that one can see through it.

3. The clothing must hang loose so that the shape / form of the body is not apparent.

4. The female clothing must not resemble the man's clothing.

5. The design of the clothing must not resemble the clothing of the non believing women.

6. The design must not consist of bold designs which attract attention.

7. Clothing should not be worn for the sole purpose of gaining reputation or increasing one's status in society.

There is no point in arguing about this; to each their own.

One advice reform you’re family and leave the rest of us Muslim women wear our Islamic clothing which is our identity. That will be appreciated.

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Hijab is a word that indicates not just the headscarf but clothing in its entirety which meets the following conditions :

1. Clothing must cover the entire body, only the hands and face may remain visible (According to some Fiqh Schools) .

2. The material must not be so thin that one can see through it.

3. The clothing must hang loose so that the shape / form of the body is not apparent.

4. The female clothing must not resemble the man's clothing.

5. The design of the clothing must not resemble the clothing of the non believing women.

6. The design must not consist of bold designs which attract attention.

7. Clothing should not be worn for the sole purpose of gaining reputation or increasing one's status in society.

There is no point in arguing about this; to each their own.

One advice reform you’re family and leave the rest of us Muslim women wear our Islamic clothing which is our identity. That will be appreciated.

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

My family has been kidnapped by your ninja sect, reform in my case means I need to enlighten them and bring them back to their cultural and spiritual roots. They are Muslims, not Wahabbis but they act like Wahabbis. Islam is 1400 years old, Wahabbism is closer to 140 years old.