hutuKing if you make repentance and give beycah to the rightly guided khalifah like Uthman Bin Affan (RA) and Cumar bin Kattab (RA) and Abubakar (RA) and respect the legitimacy of Amir Muawiyah you will become muslim again.
Subhanallah you want me to leave islam and become murtad like you and shabaab?
As for muawiya(may Allah forgive him), i have rejected his rebellion and repeat same words as prophet pbuh said about Ammaar ra: you call them to the garden while they(rebellious group who killed ammar ra) invite you to the fire.
It is up to Allah swt weither He forgives them or punishes them.
So you diassociate yourself with Mucaawiya RA, whose services to the Cause are known and too many to be counted, but accept the ones who Insult the shaykayn (Abu bakr and cumar) as well as the ummahatul muimeen? Do you have a sickness in your heart?
The prophet saws also said in an authentic hadith that Al-xasan would bring peace between two Muslim groups. The prophet saws also said in an authentic hadith that Abu bakr and Cumar are guarenteed jannah (like 3-4 hadiths mentioning this), as well telling Cumar and the rest of the sahabah to "leave Abu bakr alone". From that day it is reported, he was not harmed by the other sahabAH. There are also half a dozen hadiths in praise of people the Shiicas insult.
So i ask you hutu, don't pick and choose what xadith you want to chose. If you want to accept the hadith of Mucaawiya (which is saxiix and ahlussunah accepts mucaawiya ra WAS WRONG in his rebellion) then you should condemn shiicism. How can you not condemn them after they insult and denigrate the most beloved people to the prophet?
Ahlussunah does not condemn even one sahabah, even when they were wrong. Do you see AHlussunah criticisng Al-hussein RA for his decision to rebell, even though all of the major sahabis were telling him NOT TO GO TO IRAQ and fight? No we do not. The way of the Muslims in dealing with the sahabah, is to acknowledge whether they were right or wrong, then hold your tongue because Allah SWT said he was pleased with them. Full stop.
So again i ask you, How can you not condemn them after they insult and denigrate the most beloved people to the prophet? How can you not condemn people who curse men who the Prophet GUARENTEED JANNAH?
Naasibi like you leaves out ahlulbayt.
After sunnah comes ahlulbayt. Infact in some authentic hadith prophet pbuh commanded us to follow quran and his purified bayt.
Another two hadith he pbuh says 1) " follow quran" 2) "follow quran and sunnah".
No, all the major axaadith state that the prophet said on Hajjatul Wadaa to follow the Quran and Sunnah. Other authentic narrations state that we should follow the ways of the Khulafaa-u-rashidiin. Others tells u to stick to the middle path and the jumhuur of the muslimeen. Most of the hadith which state FOLLOW the ahlu-bayt are baatil. The authentic ones state to honour and respect them, which is what Ahlussunah does. Ahlussunah does not lie upon ahlul-bayt like SHiicas do. AHLUSSUNAH does not accuse Cali of being a coward. This is shiicas. We believe Cali ra was a warrior, not a coward, and would die for Allah's Cause. Shiicas do not.
Secondly, Ahlul-bayt= Sahabah and salaf
Cali, Xasan and Xussein RA= Sahabah
Jacfar saadiq etc= Salaf
We don't need to make distinct categories in FOLLOWING people. The Ahlul-bayt are only mentioned in the context of respect. If they were to be followed in that way in a distinct way, the prophet saws would mention this. But he didn't.
Thirdly, Naasibis is a made up word of Shiicas. They consider Ahlussunah nasibis. The fact that you don't expect GOD DIVINED IMAAMAH would be considered a nasibi act. You are an idiot.
I smashed Shiicism in the other thread, and HUTU couldn't debunk a word i said. Everyone witnessed it. In real life. he wouldn't be able to dodge my questions.
Melo is right, in couple years (I hope I am wrong) but Hutuking will have burned himself out of the faith. I have never seen such confusing and extremely polarizing positions taken on Islamic doctrine by an individual. He made takfiir on Grandpa (who at least sticks to his single Khawaarij support of Shabaab), rejected Muawiyah (who is universally accepted in Sunni jurisprudence), and idolized the Ahlu Bayt to be in the political context (why didn't the prophet just go ahead and name Ali his successor instead of leaving to the Ummah to decide among them?..may god have blessings on the Ahlu Bayt).
This is what you call being reactionary without grounding knowledge.
Bro, Cali ra himself accepted the reign of the first 3. It is clear as night and day, but here's something that will smash Shiicism to its roots
If Cali RA believed Imaamah (the shiica doctrine that imaams are divinely picked by God), why didn't he dismantle the system that Abu bakr and cumar put into place, and restructure it in a way that fits in life with the imaamah model? Rather than doing this, he stuck to the model of the sahabah. Cali was ELECTED through Bayca, not Imaamah. In fact, Cali RA did not return the Fadak that Abu Bakr RA took to ahlu-bayt. He followed the way of the first caliphs in most respects. If the shiicas are correct in their portrayal of Cali, do these actions even make sense?
Shiicism by its nature is illogical and makes no sense. it is an insult to Ahlu-bayt. The fact that Hutu always latches himself to the most extreme Islamic movements (Sufi, Jadiids, Khaarijis and now Shiicas) is proof of his instability. I fear for him man. I really do.
