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Are you in favor of a Global Islamic State

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No
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Re: Global Islamic State

Postby BlackVelvet » Tue May 17, 2011 12:56 pm

The current borders might be European but you'd be mistaken if you're trying to say that people have never tried to forge their own boundaries of belonging aka nations or empires. It's human to stake your claim to land. Bay and Bakool and your attachment being an example. Like I said "Islam" is not a big enough reason, at least not without a Mahdi or a Prophet (divine intervention) at it's head, and even then, it would probably disintegrate upon his death.

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Re: Global Islamic State

Postby AhlulbaytSoldier » Tue May 17, 2011 1:00 pm

Global Islamic state will not happen during our lifetime. I have seen the conditions of muslim ummah. Amongst them there are secularists, irhaabi wahabis and those who stay at graves all day while singing ''ya shiikhi fulan madad''.

Maybe after few hunderd years, with the arrival of amir ul mumineen Imam Mahdi radiyallah anhu the muslim ummah will be united again.

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Re: Global Islamic State

Postby SultanOrder » Tue May 17, 2011 1:05 pm

why do we need a global Islamic state :| We already got Islamic countries council :|

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Re: Global Islamic State

Postby IRONm@N » Tue May 17, 2011 1:12 pm

they should start with something like NATO, then just go up from there.

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Re: Global Islamic State

Postby udun » Tue May 17, 2011 1:12 pm

It is coming folks but Allah knows when it will be.

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Re: Global Islamic State

Postby Executive » Tue May 17, 2011 1:18 pm

Its funny how a lot of muslims want to distancing themselves from greater unity and cooperation between the muslim countries. I wonder why on earth would a muslim screw his face over that Idea. We are seeing western countries working towards economic unity for example the Euro and European central bank, military co-operations and so on.....While muslim countries are building up their military stock to suppress their own people or to point their guns at other muslim countries.

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Re: Global Islamic State

Postby Executive » Tue May 17, 2011 1:24 pm

why do we need a global Islamic state :| We already got Islamic countries council :|


Whats that?

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Re: Global Islamic State

Postby SultanOrder » Tue May 17, 2011 1:25 pm

Organization of the Islamic Council (OIS)

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Re: Global Islamic State

Postby Monk-of-Mogadishu » Tue May 17, 2011 1:28 pm

Terrible idea. Muslim countries don't have the same goals or interests, a nomad in the Sahara desert and a fisherman in Sumatra cannot expect the same outcome. This is a stupid idea and a dangerous one.

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Re: Global Islamic State

Postby Shirib » Tue May 17, 2011 2:27 pm

The current borders might be European but you'd be mistaken if you're trying to say that people have never tried to forge their own boundaries of belonging aka nations or empires. It's human to stake your claim to land. Bay and Bakool and your attachment being an example. Like I said "Islam" is not a big enough reason, at least not without a Mahdi or a Prophet (divine intervention) at it's head, and even then, it would probably disintegrate upon his death.
I always say I am from Xamar and Afgooye, but yet everyone sticks Baay and Bakool on me, go figure lol

But back to the thing, almost all of the boundaries and ideas of nationalism that exist today because it was forged by Europeans. Other identities existed and the strongest one was being religion. How else do you explain Islamic empires that existed even long after the death of the Prophet. These weren't seen on a level of nationalism but on a level of religion

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Re: Global Islamic State

Postby FAH1223 » Tue May 17, 2011 2:29 pm

There is no such a thing as an Islamic state, because Islam is in its essence is anti-state from what we view as state today.

Ottomans were the closest, but it didn't develop into what we view as a "statE"

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Re: Global Islamic State

Postby Shirib » Tue May 17, 2011 2:30 pm

There is no such a thing as an Islamic state, because Islam is in its essence is anti-state from what we view as state today.
nation, country, empire, whatever u have it. U know what I was getting at. So what's your take

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Re: Global Islamic State

Postby DisplacedDiraac » Tue May 17, 2011 2:42 pm

It would be great.. But I highly doubt it could ever happen.. Islam has broken down into too many sects.. :|

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Re: Global Islamic State

Postby SultanOrder » Tue May 17, 2011 2:45 pm

There is no such a thing as an Islamic state, because Islam is in its essence is anti-state from what we view as state today.
nation, country, empire, whatever u have it. U know what I was getting at. So what's your take
My take is your a big bimbo :lol:
It would be great.. But I highly doubt it could ever happen.. Islam has broken down into too many sects.. :|
Actually Islam has a lot less sects, especially influential and powerful states within states, than in the past. So, thats not a viable reason against it. :lol: bimbo #2 :P

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Re: Global Islamic State

Postby Coeus » Tue May 17, 2011 2:47 pm

Its funny how a lot of muslims want to distancing themselves from greater unity and cooperation between the muslim countries. I wonder why on earth would a muslim screw his face over that Idea. We are seeing western countries working towards economic unity for example the Euro and European central bank, military co-operations and so on.....While muslim countries are building up their military stock to suppress their own people or to point their guns at other muslim countries.
The reality is much more different to what you just posted :?


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