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, Obama doesn't give a shit about kenya thats all i know
i voted for him,he is my mp in nairobi. somalia will never get to that power to make us shake again and live fearfully over our villages fearing an invasion from the east,but we always want the best for you. no had feelingsYeah i know, your afraid if the Somali's rule over you again., but now continue to dress up as gangsters in your parliament.i am sorry,That will never ever happen,we will never allow that. its a majority opinion by kenyans and ethiopians.lets just be contented with what everyone has, its enough.Yeah its just that somali's are mad and want our rightfull land y'know , we probably have the most land in the horn anyway.the horn belongs to US
rendille are not somali,as for the massacre it was unfortunate, it was carried out after constant incursions by somalis in meru territory and the killing of innocent women and children by the shifta, most of those killed however were shiftas.
Somalia-Ethiopia, Kenya Conflict
Ethiopia and Kenya concluded a mutual defense pact in 1964 in response to what both countries perceived as a continuing threat from Somalia. This pact was renewed in 1980 and again on August 28, 1987, calling for the coordination of the armed forces of both states in the event of an attack by Somalia.
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2,700 Killed During 60s Isiolo Massacre
Hussein Salesa
10 May 2011
EMOTIONS run high in Isiolo during a public TJRC hearing as victims of Daaba spoke of past injustices and killings during state of emergecny in 1960s.
The victims estimate the number of those shot dead during the state of emergency, when thousands of pastoralists were put into three concentration camps at 2,700.
Hussein Adan, who presented a memornadum to TJRC, said hundreds of women were raped, some tortured and beaten soldiers.
Adan said some women were taken away by security forces especially, the wives of men who fled to join Shifta, and detained at Merti, Garba-tulla and Modogashe camps. Hussein Jama recalled the massarcre and mass killing of livestock by soldiers during the state of emergency.
During the hearing, the victims said the government should undertake a comprehensive development initiative similar to marshal Plan that USA initiated for post world war reconstruction of Europe to compensate for the losses.
They claimed livestock worth billions of shillings were lost during the massarcre and that the only way to deal with the ugly and bloody past is to through reparation and compensation.
Victims recalled camels and donkeys were shot on sight because they were considered instruments of war. In fact, the camel population was almost wiped out in the period. Kenyan troops thought Shiftas took away the livestock for food or transport.
Adan also called on the government to rehabilitate and resettle the displaced population through restocking and other sustainable means to provide education, water and health.He said the government must also provide roads, telecommunication and railway network.
Some victims who presented their memorandum to the commission called on the government to pay the victims cash.
Daaba, meaning concertration camp, took place between 1965 and 1967, immediately after Kenya's independence. It took place in Isiolo district in Eastern province of Kenya. It was centred on the then three divisions of the district, namely: Merti, Garba Tulla and Modogashe.
The event that led to daaba were the clamour for Kenya's independence was rising in the 1950s and 1960s, new political parties cropped up in the South Kenya. The Northern Frontier Districts (NFD) region of Kenya was not left out.
And it led to formation of political Parties representing the interests of the pastroralists. The two major parties from the North were the Northern Province Peoples Progressive Party and the Northern People Union Association.
While the NPPPP, predominantly supported by the four districts of Garissa, Isiolo, Mandera and Wajir wanted the NFD to secede to the Republic of Somalia, the NPUA predominantly supported by Marsabit and Moyale districts, agitated for it to remain in Kenya.
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In a bid to determine the future of the NFD, the British government through the office of the Secretary of State for the colonies formed the Northern Frontier District Commission in 1962.The commission decided the regions remain part of Kenya.
Survivors said those frustrated by the decision opted to wage a guerrilla war against the Kenya Government. This was the beginning of the infamous "Shifta war The government of the newly independent Kenya used excessive military force to quell the uprising in most part of the NFD
They said though the civilians in NFD generally suffered from the brutal methods, the Waso Boran were collectively condemned and bear the brunt of the war.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_AC-130 coming to a border near youMeru,you are too arrogant for a Bantu,and its quit blatant from you to speak about something called greater Kiswahili state when we are actually seeking the return of NFD as soon as we get our house in order.I hope u guys are gonna have the brains to arm ur self with something better than the second grade weapons u just listed cuz in the case that u went to an all out war with a united somalia in the future.you will be annihiliated by africa's most seasoned fighters and battle brave.and no white man will protect ur azz this time
that buffer zone in the juba area was a secret till blown up by ethiopia after they got wind of it and became jealous, they are the ones who tipped off everyone in the world about it, i think kenya wont tell ethiopia secrets anymore, but i think its determined to establish that buffer zone area in jubaland back to the kenyan border. i do not support further splitting of somali peopleMeru has a point. Ethiopia/Kenya will never allow strong Somalia. Somali land was divided into 5 parts many decades ago. Two got back together in 1960 only to separate after three decades. Now, Kenya wants to create a new buffer zone called Anzania. Ethiopia controls almost every Somali by proxy. If these two countries and decide to divide and annex Somalia between them, we will be just spectators. We are lucky if the current status quo is prolonged till Somalis wake up and smell the coffee.
Rendille are somalis.rendille are not somali,as for the massacre it was unfortunate, it was carried out after constant incursions by somalis in meru territory and the killing of innocent women and children by the shifta, most of those killed however were shiftas.
that buffer zone in the juba area was a secret till blown up by ethiopia after they got wind of it and became jealous, they are the ones who tipped off everyone in the world about it, i think kenya wont tell ethiopia secrets anymore, but i think its determined to establish that buffer zone area in jubaland back to the kenyan border. i do not support further splitting of somali peopleMeru has a point. Ethiopia/Kenya will never allow strong Somalia. Somali land was divided into 5 parts many decades ago. Two got back together in 1960 only to separate after three decades. Now, Kenya wants to create a new buffer zone called Anzania. Ethiopia controls almost every Somali by proxy. If these two countries and decide to divide and annex Somalia between them, we will be just spectators. We are lucky if the current status quo is prolonged till Somalis wake up and smell the coffee.
Yeah its just that somali's are mad and want our rightfull land y'know , we probably have the most land in the horn anyway.the horn belongs to US
If thats truth, why dident Somalia get NFD back before 1991?To be honest there is no military in Kenya.
Its just civil servants dressed in military gear.
Kenyan military is very weak. Ugandans can overrun them in a week. Thats why Uganda took over Miginngo islands and the Kenyan Govt is silent about it.
KLenyan military are just good for taking parades and showing their gangster clads apart from that they are a waste.
