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Re: 'Politics behind Somalia PM resignation'
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:21 pm
by Murax
The title is misleading. It doesn't say anything other than regurgitate what's already been reported.
If all this was the work of Museveni, then well done to him. It seems like a smart way to get things moving.
Somalis need to get over their misguided and poisonous self serving nationalism.
There is no boogeyman. Accept the help and restore peace and prosperity....that should be the only focus and issue. We should not be wasting time attacking other people who are trying to defuse the situation like Museveni. He stands to gain a lot of respect by being the man who brought back peace to Somalia...I say Somalis should help him get that respect.
Or I guess we can continue barking at the wrong tree.
You are a very naive person.
Museveni is nothing more then boots on the ground and a enforcement mechanism for higher powers. Shabab and AMISOM two foreign serving powers are bombing away at Your relatives everyday You think they have local agendas?
Re: 'Politics behind Somalia PM resignation'
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:24 pm
by malibu
The title is misleading. It doesn't say anything other than regurgitate what's already been reported.
If all this was the work of Museveni, then well done to him. It seems like a smart way to get things moving.
Somalis need to get over their misguided and poisonous self serving nationalism.
There is no boogeyman. Accept the help and restore peace and prosperity....that should be the only focus and issue. We should not be wasting time attacking other people who are trying to defuse the situation like Museveni. He stands to gain a lot of respect by being the man who brought back peace to Somalia...I say Somalis should help him get that respect.
Or I guess we can continue barking at the wrong tree.
You are a very naive person.
I saw you supporting Farmajoo a Uganda puppet....
Museveni is nothing more then boots on the ground and a enforcement mechanism for higher powers. Shabab and AMISOM two foreign serving powers are bombing away at Your relatives everyday You think they have local agendas?
Re: 'Politics behind Somalia PM resignation'
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:26 pm
by malibu
Murax
I saw you supporting farmajoo the main uganda puppet.......
Re: 'Politics behind Somalia PM resignation'
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:28 pm
by udun
The title is misleading. It doesn't say anything other than regurgitate what's already been reported.
If all this was the work of Museveni, then well done to him. It seems like a smart way to get things moving.
Somalis need to get over their misguided and poisonous self serving nationalism.
There is no boogeyman. Accept the help and restore peace and prosperity....that should be the only focus and issue. We should not be wasting time attacking other people who are trying to defuse the situation like Museveni. He stands to gain a lot of respect by being the man who brought back peace to Somalia...I say Somalis should help him get that respect.
Or I guess we can continue barking at the wrong tree.
You are a very naive person.
Museveni is nothing more then boots on the ground and a enforcement mechanism for higher powers. Shabab and AMISOM two foreign serving powers are bombing away at Your relatives everyday You think they have local agendas?
Indeed Eyes-only is very very naive person or she may be paid to divert blame. This lobybyist at Park Strategies is stating this:
“Given the fact that the UN and US appear indifferent to good governance in Somalia and only seem to want shallow 'happy face' agreements between the president and speaker, the prime minister felt he had no choice,” John Zagemy, a lobbyist for New York-based Park Strategies, told the Nation.
and here we have eedo Eyes-only stating
There is no boogeyman. Accept the help and restore peace and prosperity....that should be the only focus and issue.
Re: 'Politics behind Somalia PM resignation'
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:30 pm
by Murax
Udun,
We might have to bring Coeus here to say something
Re: 'Politics behind Somalia PM resignation'
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:35 pm
by eyes-only
The title is misleading. It doesn't say anything other than regurgitate what's already been reported.
If all this was the work of Museveni, then well done to him. It seems like a smart way to get things moving.
Somalis need to get over their misguided and poisonous self serving nationalism.
There is no boogeyman. Accept the help and restore peace and prosperity....that should be the only focus and issue. We should not be wasting time attacking other people who are trying to defuse the situation like Museveni. He stands to gain a lot of respect by being the man who brought back peace to Somalia...I say Somalis should help him get that respect.
Or I guess we can continue barking at the wrong tree.
Do you really think that Uganda is working for Somalias interest?
I think Museveni wants to make a name for himself. There's no fee lunch and no one does anything for nothing so I'm not saying he's doing it out of the kindness of his heart. But I sincerely believe the man is acting for peace in Somalia and actually beliefs he can influence change. I think it's worth a try and worth giving the benefit of the doubt. When Somalis voice their opposition to the guy and anything Africa led, it is always fueled by some racism....It's ridiculous to assume every African leader wants to take over your country and silly to think you're too good to be getting help from a fellow African.
It's dangerous when people believe propaganda. There's no bogeyman!
Murax, call me naive all you want. The people harming my relatives and denying them a comfortable night's sleep are Somalis calling themselves Al-Shabaab. The Ugandan is there risking his life to defend the rights of my relatives to live a fee life in their homes. I thank them for that.
Marka, keep all your un-naive and perpetually stagnant thoughts and leave me in my naivety.
Re: 'Politics behind Somalia PM resignation'
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:42 pm
by malibu
"eyes-only"
I think Museveni wants to make a name for himself. There's no fee lunch and no one does anything for nothing so I'm not saying he's doing it out of the kindness of his heart. But I sincerely believe the man is acting for peace in Somalia and actually beliefs he can influence change. I think it's worth a try and worth giving the benefit of the doubt. When Somalis voice their opposition to the guy and anything Africa led, it is always fueled by some racism....It's ridiculous to assume every African leader wants to take over your country and silly to think you're too good to be getting help from a fellow African.
It's dangerous when people believe propaganda. There's no bogeyman!
Murax, call me naive all you want. The people harming my relatives and denying them a comfortable night's sleep are Somalis calling themselves Al-Shabaab. The Ugandan is there risking his life to defend the rights of my relatives to live a fee life in their homes. I thank them for that.
Marka, keep all your un-naive and perpetually stagnant thoughts and leave me in my naivety.[/quote]
What about Uganda getting economic support to have troops in Mogadishu?
Re: 'Politics behind Somalia PM resignation'
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:48 pm
by udun
Re: 'Politics behind Somalia PM resignation'
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:58 pm
by eyes-only
malibu, did you expect them to do it for free? It costs a lot to maintain those troops so why shouldn't they get funded for their work? It's not like Somalia is able to defend itself....plus the Ugandan public opinion would not have it if they had to foot the bill for the thankless job their toops have to do in a foreign land.
Honestly, if one day there was a fire in your house and you lost everything and cannot even defend your house from criminals and one of your neighbours (who you previously helped) sent you a couple of his kids to help you with your overwhelming task and those kids got money from the concerned people of your town who took pity on you....is it then right for you to fight that helping hand just because it is getting paid to help?
Not a great analogy but I hope you get what I mean.
Re: 'Politics behind Somalia PM resignation'
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:05 pm
by Murax
I think He went on a mission to say it in person
Re: 'Politics behind Somalia PM resignation'
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:15 pm
by Murax
Murax, call me naive all you want. The people harming my relatives and denying them a comfortable night's sleep are Somalis calling themselves Al-Shabaab. The Ugandan is there risking his life to defend the rights of my relatives to live a fee life in their homes. I thank them for that.
Marka, keep all your un-naive and perpetually stagnant thoughts and leave me in my naivety.
For one, while they are part of the problem, Southern Somalia was in shambles well before they came marka for someone who talks about scapegoating take a look at that. Yes, the armed factions, the mooryaans, terrorist groups (shabab), Itixad, etc. have been part of the chaos. As for the Ugandan well they have been here for only about 2 years so in their first major litmus test to see what their true intentions are, they made themselves abundantly clear that their objectives are impure. If they were very serious about revitalizing, and restoring institutions then they would have went out of their way to support any group(s) within the TFG that was taking steps towards that. By them dissolving a PM and a 1st class cabinet due to a immature dispute between a uneducated lifestock trader and a clueless Head of State, will not restore any confidence to any logical Somali especially considering they were skeptikal to begin with. It beats Me, that the author of this article who is not even Somali understands these very simple observations better than someone such as Yourself who's been reading every Somali news headline, and has been listening to probably every bbc news broadcast the past 10 years. Be that as it may, I will surely oblige and leave You to Your naivety, or perhaps this is not Your strong suit (not suprising)
Re: 'Politics behind Somalia PM resignation'
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:15 pm
by Voltage
Eyes, did Indhacadde talk to you about Museveni?
Re: 'Politics behind Somalia PM resignation'
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:18 pm
by Murax
Eyes, did Indhacadde talk to you about Museveni?
Runti this Guy went from a big warlord to just a magan who will work for every and any group that gives Him food for the month
All the other warlords, while they cannot be praised at all, at least stuck to one platform.
Re: 'Politics behind Somalia PM resignation'
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:01 pm
by eyes-only
Eyes, did Indhacadde talk to you about Museveni?
Why? Do you want him to talk to you about Museveni?
Re: 'Politics behind Somalia PM resignation'
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:09 pm
by IRONm@N
If Islamic movements take over, they will be disbanded, and if TFG is about to work and asserts power, it will be disbanded.
see those of you who are thinking that the UN and US is their savior?