Somalis and Oromos Used to be One

[St8OuttaDirree]

Most Oromos are not real Oromo.

Only those in the East like Borana and Arsi are originally Oromo. All others are fake Oromo (mostly Agew-Amhara or Nilotic-Omotic tribes who became Oromo). Somalis are not related to the fake Oromos (they form a large portion of the modern-day Oromo).

Arsi Oromos have a large percentage of ex sidama and hadiya people, so they wouldn't be called Original. Ask a Booran and they'd laugh at you calling them Arsi's original.
Within every Oromo clan in all regions they have sects of Original Oromos. But most tend to also have groups of previous ethnicites.

Meru, Oromos in Kenya are Boranas and I wonder how they look to u like amhara and tigray

B.

Thinking the same thing.

[Mckuus]

related like oranges and apples.i can tell a oromo immideately from a somali very different. oromos look like amhara,tigray BUT NOT somali

Those must be the Wellega Oromo I was speaking of. They are not really Oromo at all, but former Agew (cousins of the Amhara) who became Oromo recently.

Oromo tribes like the Borana (purest Oromo) look very much like Somalis.

Borana:

[Mckuus]

Arsi Oromos have a large percentage of ex sidama and hadiya people, so they wouldn't be called Original. Ask a Booran and they'd laugh at you calling them Arsi's original. Within every Oromo clan in all regions they have sects of Original Oromos. But most tend to also have groups of previous ethnicites.

What is your Oromo sub-tribe?

[bareento]

Mckus, on serious note,
there is nthg like pure clan, tribe or nation!

U can find oromos in some of the oldest somali clans like the Ajuran, and you can find Sidama in the oromo clans.
every clan and every tribe and every nation is an association!

and for the record although it seems weird to your stubborn nomadic mind, all Men are equal as human being
I know it sounds funny to u but that is reality

Identities change, but the human material and sometimes the culture stay!
Sidama used to be one of the major tribes in the region today they are small;
but they didnt disappear they just become oromo and somali!
the famous Guji dances and the famous ogaadeen dhaanto are in fact forms of the Sidama "sirbaa"
In fact linguistically sidama and dassanech are closer to somalis than oromos
dont go and claim their land though


B.

[Meru]

@bareento and mckuss,my own ethnic meru people border and live alongside borana and somali people. meru are the most north-east of all bantu and form the natural border with your peoples so we know somalis and borana for centuries. so i can tell somalis and boranas very easily. i know of many amharas living in hurlingham nairobi and i can assure you they look like borana.

[St8OuttaDirree]

@bareento and mckuss,my own ethnic meru people border and live alongside borana and somali people. meru are the most north-east of all bantu and form the natural border with your peoples so we know somalis and borana for centuries. so i can tell somalis and boranas very easily. i know of many amharas living in hurlingham nairobi and i can assure you they look like borana.

[bareento]

Ok, Meru, u probably compared them to showa/gojjam amharas! and its long history to explain here
Do Merus intermarry with Boranas?
do Merus keep their genealogy?

B.

[Dudaaye]

The Somalis had retaken all the land lost to Borana ,,,,
http://orvillejenkins.com/profiles/rendille.html

Digil tribes

Rendille
Gabra
Sakuye
Garre

The Warday (Orma) are part of Cushatic people, Warday have their own language


" Andrew Fedders and Cynthia Salvadori have on the origin of the Gabbra written thus:
Gabbra origins remain uncertain. Earlier in this section on Cushitic peoples, in discussing the fate
of the Somali-speaking Garre who were defeated and disbanded by the Orma in the sixteenth
century in the region between the Juba and the Tana Rivers, it was suggested that one of the three
groups emerging from the routed Garre may have eventually given rise to the Gabbra (as well as
to the Rendille and the Sakuye). In other words, it is possible that the Gabbra were Somali
speakers who evolved into Galla-speakers. ""

http://www.kenyacommunities.org/article ... %20Six.pdf

[Meru]

@bareento,yeah,we have helped to modernize them thru intermarriages. boranas they are good people. we love each other. but there are conflicts now and then but my meru people are known to be ruthless and ferocious we vaporized somali clans like degodia,arjuan in isiolo till they went back to NFD

[St8OuttaDirree]

The Somalis had retaken all the land lost to Borana ,,,,
The Warday (Orma) are part of Cushatic people, Warday have their own language

The Ormaa speak Afaan Oromo, same dialect as the Booran with a very little differnces.

[bareento]

Dudaye,
Honestly those people, except for Boranas and ormas who r clearly oromo, are neither oromo nor somalis!
these are small tribes caught between somalis and oromos, they change identity for survival!

Meru, tell me more about the Meru and their modernising effect on others.
Its a blessing to have an original bantu on this forum.
B.

[Meru]

@bareento,am an extremely PROUD meru bantu. we are the people that STOPPED the somali from migrating more west inside kenya and oromos more south into kenya. i.e we whipped your ass militariy pre colonial era. as for our culture history etc.its long another time. just google 4 now@bareento,am an extremely PROUD meru bantu. we are the people that STOPPED the somali from migrating more west inside kenya and oromos more south into kenya. i.e we whipped your ass militariy pre colonial era. as for our culture history etc.its long another time. just google 4 now

[ToughGong]

Actually hargeysa means meeshi haraga (hides) la geyn jiray for trade

That's a common misconception,it actauly means Dacar (Aloe Vera) in Oromo

Another Oromo city name is Arabsio-the watering place (Waraabsio)

[bareento]

Brother Meru, I am afraid you misundertood my words!

I used to advance a bold and maverick theory: i claimed somalis and oromos are in fact bantus!
I did some research but as I have no knowledge of other bantus i stopped my research!

U coming on this Forum is a blessing for my theory!
u can help me tune fining my theory!

B.

PS Meru, watch out its only few weeks u are on this forum, u already started talking like somalis! (your ancestors defeating this and that ...)

[Mckuus]

@bareento,am an extremely PROUD meru bantu. we are the people that STOPPED the somali from migrating more west inside kenya and oromos more south into kenya. i.e we whipped your ass militariy pre colonial era. as for our culture history etc.its long another time. just google 4 now@bareento,am an extremely PROUD meru bantu. we are the people that STOPPED the somali from migrating more west inside kenya and oromos more south into kenya. i.e we whipped your ass militariy pre colonial era. as for our culture history etc.its long another time. just google 4 now

How can you be proud of taking other peoples' land. You are no different from the White Boers in South Africa. Just colonizers of foreign land.

Kenya does not belong to the Bantu, the Cushites were there first.