The rift in S-net General Forum

[Sir-Luggoyo]

Atheists V Islamists

I know this is a tired topic and has been dragged for so long, but what I am trying is, to put it in a perspective that might end the tag of war.

Atheists in here have been trying to downgrade Islam and dissuade it's followers by presenting so-called flaws in the faith albeit not tangible. The alternatives they presented are/were (or the lack of it) were meshy and in the eyes of the true believer, absurd and unsawllowable. Facts and proves were missing and the prominent figures in the atheist ideology either ended up in an obscure world or science caught up with their fabricated dogmas, hence, no Atheist managed to convince any Islamist to question the faith they hold so dear and near to their heart.

Islamists on the other hand, concluded their long debates with Atheists that "Whomsoever Allah guides, will never go astray" no matter how long you preach, present the undeniable facts of the existence of a creator to this universe or the purpose of humans in this world, no one can guide someone no matter how much you like that individual.

What is the solution then?

I think it's basically "Lakum diinakum waliya diini"

[intellex]

sir why do think i hijack threads lately sxb ?

[Sir-Luggoyo]

Intel,



Ever since you came up with that bootylicious avatar, you were so unpredictable saxib. Maybe you are wanking too much, I don't know

[intellex]

@ wanking sxb after the pic that lion pmed us i dont think i want to see any thing let alone wankin

[optimist_1]

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

There is no solution. The Islamicists are ideologues, like communists. I remember arguing with communists and rational arguments didn't work because they regarded Lenin and Marx as divine - although they never would have said that. Jews are the same way. Try arguing the Palestinian issue with an orthodox Jew. God gave them the land, and that's that. You can't argue with that. They are locked in a mind set that simply does not permit them to think critically. Everything is rationalized. Islam is their orientation point. Even if they knew it was false, they would lie to themselves. But religion is never provable or disprovable, so people pretty much end up believing what they want.

It is interesting that in some Islamic circles being a "free thinker" is a negative characteristic.

[optimist_1]

Madmac nobody has seen an error in Islam.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

MAD MAC has. And you know it.

[intellex]

the only person who is locked in a mind set is you think about that


and i can prove it to u mad

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

I'm not locked. I entertain the notion that there are boundless possibilities and many things of which I am unaware. I entertained Islam at one point, but rejected it. Just as I did with Christianity and Bhudism. But as a Deist, that leaves things pretty open, because Deism is not a rigid doctrine.

[intellex]

ok now you need to let go mad why did u rejected your own religion, the religion of your dad and mom? have u ever beeing alter boy?

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Nope was never an alter boy. Did sing in the Church choir.

Basically I reject the notion that God is a vengeful, self-serving asshole. That's why. Do what I say or roast in hell? What kind of sick God is that? I don't buy it. I believe God is essentially benevolent.

[intellex]

son you seem that you were hurt wouldu like to sit on uncle intellex lap and let it go

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

You know I appreciate the sentiment, but I'd rather sit on a porcupine than on your lap!

[biko]

[quote="MAD MAC"]You know I appreciate the sentiment, but I'd rather sit on a porcupine than on your lap! [/quote]
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mad mac never use emoticons, so who the fock are you?


and if you are him,...........shouldnt you be in new orlean?