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Re: The truth about the aid agencies,

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:57 pm
by abdisamad3
NoAngst wrote:
abdisamad3 wrote:
NoAngst wrote:This helps Alshabaab's cause... how exactly?

this article has nothing to do with al shabab sxb,,if anything it should be a wake up call for those who care about Somalia, :up:


It has everything to do with Alshabab. It is Alshabaab that is causing the famine. No Alshabaab, no dead Somalis.

And you post this black propaganda disguised as Western critique of aid agencies.

what can I say..you busted me, :down:

Re: The truth about the aid agencies,

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:03 pm
by NoAngst
FAH1223 wrote:
NoAngst wrote:This helps Alshabaab's cause... how exactly?


Al-Shabab bans Western aid agencies because of the activities they do. They don't REALLY want to help anyone, its about big bureaucracy and making money off of the pain and suffering of poor people.



Which activities were Western aid agencies banned for? AlShabaab never elaborated on this.

If you really believe Alshabaab banned foreign aid agencies for economic reasons (to support local farmers or what not) then you're a fool. They banned the aid agencies because they're Gaalo. It is their blind hatred for Infidels that prevents them from seeing sense.

And what do you mean they don't "really want to help?" We know aid agencies are inherently inefficient and sometimes do more harm than good. But all this talk about the shortcomings of aid agencies is callous talk. People are dying and need help.

Re: The truth about the aid agencies,

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:18 pm
by udun
The truth about western aid agencies is they can be only one of three:

1. Collecting intelligence and bringing arms and ammunition in the name of food aid.

2. Christian missionaries hiding behind food aid. Actually, it is known and well-understood all Christian missionaries want Somalia to remain in a permanent chaos and stay being poor.

3. Harvesting human organs. Some of the Israeli and other zionist NGOs were proven to be havesting organs in Africa, Haiti, and other places.


There is always something behind the slogans.

Re: The truth about the aid agencies,

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:26 pm
by abdisamad3
udun wrote:The truth about western aid agencies is they can be only one of three:

1. Collecting intelligence and bringing arms and ammunition in the name of food aid.

2. Christian missionaries hiding behind food aid. Actually, it is known and well-understood all Christian missionaries want Somalia to remain in a permanent chaos and stay being poor.

3. Harvesting human organs. Some of the Israeli and other zionist NGOs were proven to be havesting organs in Africa, Haiti, and other places.


There is always something behind the slogans.

nothing is for free in this world you pay one way or the other, :up:

Re: The truth about the aid agencies,

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:27 pm
by SahanGalbeed
Horta paranoia ama waswaas -nimada , ma wax la iska dhaxlo ba ? yacni from father to son , mise dad bay u gaar tahay :lol:
Qofka iska badaw -ga ah , ayaa generally excessively supicious ah . Markaa waxa dhici karta in dadka qarkood badawnimadii lagu dhalay ina la dhex roorayaan iyago luuqad aan toodi ahayn ku hadlaya . ya? Ilaahow inaga qabo :lol:

Re: The truth about the aid agencies,

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:31 pm
by Beenaale_No1
We shouldnt even be relying on these people. :down:

Re: The truth about the aid agencies,

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:36 pm
by SahanGalbeed
Beenaale_No1 wrote:We shouldnt even be relying on these people. :down:

War waxba ma haysataan !! Weligiin na lacag dawladaha shisheeye usoo shubaan bay Somalia ku nowleed , waxba yaan been la isku sheegiin walaalayaal. Qurbaad ku nooshihiin e , masakiinta gaajadu dishay waxba ha ku dul daacina , okay?

"We should" do this , "we should" that ayuu mid walba ku leeyahay . Ma' refugee camp -kii dhadhaab bay tolow ka soo hadlayaan mise abaar baa ka soo kixisay dhulkoodi . War nimayow wax walba la iska ga ma hadlo , gaalada aad ka cabanaysaan waxba ma dhaantaan . Qoof gaajo dishay , hadaadan baahida ka saarayn , afkaaga la iska haysta !!

Re: The truth about the aid agencies,

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:39 pm
by abdisamad3
SahanGalbeed wrote:Horta paranoia ama waswaas -nimada , ma wax la iska dhaxlo ba ? yacni from father to son , mise dad bay u gaar tahay :lol:
Qofka iska badaw -ga ah , ayaa generally excessively supicious ah . Markaa waxa dhici karta in dadka qarkood badawnimadii lagu dhalay ina la dhex roorayaan iyago luuqad aan toodi ahayn ku hadlaya . ya? Ilaahow inaga qabo :lol:

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orod meel iska fadhiiso nin wareersaan aa tahay, :lol: :arrow:

Re: The truth about the aid agencies,

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:44 pm
by SahanGalbeed
abdisamad3 wrote:
SahanGalbeed wrote:Horta paranoia ama waswaas -nimada , ma wax la iska dhaxlo ba ? yacni from father to son , mise dad bay u gaar tahay :lol:
Qofka iska badaw -ga ah , ayaa generally excessively supicious ah . Markaa waxa dhici karta in dadka qarkood badawnimadii lagu dhalay ina la dhex roorayaan iyago luuqad aan toodi ahayn ku hadlaya . ya? Ilaahow inaga qabo :lol:

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orod meel iska fadhiiso nin wareersaan aa tahay, :lol: :arrow:

War minneapolis baad joogta oo aftur kaagi , cashadaadi iyo suxurkaagi waa ku diyaar , waxba meesha u ma soo kordhinaysid masaakinta halkan e , wareerka inaga kala qabo niyow. Kuwaasa diin ku sheeganaya marka dambe , bismillahi raxmaani raxiim !

Re: The truth about the aid agencies,

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:46 pm
by udun
abdisamad3 wrote:
SahanGalbeed wrote:Horta paranoia ama waswaas -nimada , ma wax la iska dhaxlo ba ? yacni from father to son , mise dad bay u gaar tahay :lol:
Qofka iska badaw -ga ah , ayaa generally excessively supicious ah . Markaa waxa dhici karta in dadka qarkood badawnimadii lagu dhalay ina la dhex roorayaan iyago luuqad aan toodi ahayn ku hadlaya . ya? Ilaahow inaga qabo :lol:

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orod meel iska fadhiiso nin wareersaan aa tahay, :lol: :arrow:


:lol: :lol:

Re: The truth about the aid agencies,

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:48 pm
by ciyaal_warta
i blame them both western aid agencies for their hypocrisy and creating the food crisis and i also blame alshabaab for giving this idiots a chance to make calaacal and put the blame on them :down: :down:

Re: The truth about the aid agencies,

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:53 pm
by union
The Western aid agencies created the famine to destroy Islam, obviously.

Re: The truth about the aid agencies,

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:56 pm
by abdisamad3
ciyaal_warta wrote:i blame them both western aid agencies for their hypocrisy and creating the food crisis and i also blame alshabaab for giving this idiots a chance to make calaacal and put the blame on them :down: :down:

sxb the problem is even if al shabab left there is gonna pop up a new group,,this is how it has been for the past 20 years,,some one is denying Somalia peace and progress and the so called international community is playing a big part of it, :down:

Re: The truth about the aid agencies,

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:17 pm
by muslim-man
[quote="abdisamad3"]Famine in Somalia: The story you are not likely to hear any time soon
[quote]I knew the real story about the famine in northern Kenya and Somalia would probably never be told when I watched a young foreign aid worker “reporting” the famine for CNN in Dadaab camp.


The young white woman, clearly coached to use the opportunity of her CNN appearance to publicise her organisation, wore a T-shirt that had the word OXFAM emblazoned on it.


The look of self-righteous, politically-correct compassion was evident on her face as she talked of starving children and emaciated mothers walking for miles in search of food.


Predictably, CNN viewers saw images of skeletal children and exhausted women with shrivelled breasts, images that have launched a multi-million dollar fund-raising campaign by the UN and donor agencies.


UN secretary-general Ban Ki-moon has asked donors to raise $1.6 billion to assist Somalia alone.


Meanwhile, dozens of humanitarian agencies are clamouring to make an appearance in Dadaab in order to raise funds for their own organisations. Dutch journalist Linda Polman calls it “The Crisis Caravan”.


In her book by the same name, Polman says that an entire industry has grown around humanitarian aid, “with cavalcades of organisations following the flow of money and competing with each other in one humanitarian territory after another for the biggest achievable share of billions.”


According to Polman, disasters like the one in Somalia attract an average 1,000 national and international aid organisations. This doesn’t include “briefcase” charities that collect funds through churches, clubs and bake-sales.


Much of the money raised goes to administrative and logistical costs of aid agencies, including the salaries of bright-eyed aid workers, such as the one described above, who drive big cars and live in nice houses, but tell people back home they live in hardship areas where they help starving Africans.


Are people starving? Yes. Should they be helped? Of course. But how much of the food that is supposed to be distributed will most likely be stolen by militia or find its way to shops where it will be sold?


Also obscured in the media hype is the real cause of famine in places such as Somalia. In a recent article, Michel Chossudovsky, professor of Economics at the University of Ottawa and founder of the Centre for Research on Globalisation, argues that in the 1980s, agriculture in Somalia was severely affected by economic reforms imposed by the IMF and the World Bank. Somalia remained self-sufficient in food until the late 1970s despite recurrent droughts, he writes.


The economic reforms, which included austerity measures and privatisation of essential services, destabilised the economy and destroyed agriculture.


Wages in the public sector were drastically reduced, urban purchasing power declined dramatically and the cost of fuel, fertiliser and farm inputs shot up. This set the stage for the civil war in 1991, from which Somalia has yet to recover.


Famine and food aid became the norm, as hundreds of aid agencies set up shop to handle a crisis that was of their own making.


In short, Somalia became a “business opportunity” that provided jobs to hundreds, if not thousands of (mostly Western) aid agency employees.


Nicholas Stockton, a former Oxfam executive director, once called this phenomenon “the moral economy”.


Michael Maren, whose book, The Road to Hell, should be required reading for those who want to understand the politics and economy of food aid, shows how this aid suppressed local food production in Somalia, fuelled civil war and created a permanent food crisis.


This crisis and the lack of a strong, well-functioning central government have also resulted in a situation where aid agencies are zipping in and out of Somalia without any vetting by the government.


In effect, Somalia is being managed and controlled by aid agencies — the government is there in name only.


Unfortunately, this story is unlikely to be told on CNN, BBC, Sky TV or other global news networks that dominate the international news agenda.


And it will certainly not be told by the aid workers whose livelihoods depend on donor money that will soon flow into Somalia via Kenya.


Nor will the Somali people be given an opportunity to explain to viewers what impact food aid and foreign intervention have had on their lives.
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THE BEST ARTICAL POSTED HERE BY FAR :up: :up: :up:

Farmaajo Was the first leader to see not the not so helpfull way these so called aid agencies operate when he said they should move to xamar all their operation headquaters from Nairobi.

Re: The truth about the aid agencies,

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:55 am
by Murax
A lot of truth to it, but Somalis are in a horrible situation. They're stuck between a rock and a hardplace. It seems Somalis are exploited from all angles, still though the AID agencies are a better alternative than the retarded Alkilaab. These Guys are no different than warlords in that they make sure they get their food/money by taxing the people while the people are starving. Even if the AID agencies pocket 95% of the money they get while they give 5% to Somalia We're still talking about .05% of hundreds of millions of dollars which is better than anything alkilaab has to offer.