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American Muslims loyal to the Republic

Postby union » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:18 pm

A Gallup poll released Tuesday found that most Muslim Americans are very optimistic about their lives in the United States and loyal to a country that's given them a wealth of economic opportunities even though some Americans continue to treat the community with hostility.

But the report also identified one area of concern: how to improve the strained relationship between Muslims and other Americans.

Experts said the survey findings were important because they could mitigate some of the concerns Americans have about the susceptibility of American Muslims to extremist causes. The thinking goes that if people are satisfied with their lives, they're unlikely to get sucked into radical movements, which often prey on vulnerable people.

Asked to rate what their lives would be like in five years, Muslim Americans gave higher ratings than members of most other religious groups did. On a 1-to-10 scale, Muslims rated their future lives at 8.4, while Americans of other religious groups give average ratings of 7.4 to 8, Gallup pollsters said.

Mohamed Younis, a senior Gallup analyst, attributed Muslims' positive outlook to a range of reasons, from political factors to the slowly recovering economy having improved their standard-of-living expectations.

"We definitely see a lot of approval for President Barack Obama and a changed rhetoric around the role of Muslims in America and Muslim-U.S. relations globally," Younis said. The survey found Obama's job approval rating at 80 percent among American Muslims.

The survey, which consisted of two polls conducted from January 2010 to April 2011, comes from the Abu Dhabi Gallup Center with some financial support from the crown prince of Abu Dhabi. The firm surveyed 1,500 Muslim Americans and thousands of Americans from other faiths, with a margin of error of 0.3 to 6.6 percentage points.

With the 10th anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks approaching, some Americans are still skeptical of the allegiances of Muslims who live in the United States. The poll found that more than a third of Protestants and Roman Catholics didn't believe that Muslim Americans were loyal to the United States.

More than nine in 10 Muslims surveyed thought that their community was loyal.

The concerns of some Americans may have been raised by incidents such as the November 2009 shooting spree that killed 13 people at Fort Hood, Texas, and the attempted bombing of New York's Times Square in May 2010. U.S. citizens of Muslim extraction have been charged in the first case and have pleaded guilty in the second.

Panelists who introduced the survey at the National Press Club said those events didn't represent the true face of Muslims in this country, a group that on average is younger, holds a greater percentage of professional graduate degrees, and earns a higher income than average Americans.

"There are so many American Muslims who (have) served in the Army and in law enforcement. Those stories have not been told. All that you hear about is the negative view of Islam and Muslims," said Imam Mohamed Magid, the president of the Islamic Society of North America.

Law enforcement agencies remain concerned, however, about corners of the American Muslim community, such as Somali Americans living in Minnesota. Several dozen young Somali Americans have traveled in recent years to their East African home country to fight for al-Shabab, a State Department-designated terrorist group.

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Re: American Muslims loyal to the Republic

Postby Beenaale_No1 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:22 pm

Muslims serving in the American army. Fail.

I hope at least they are African American Muslims cos the US is their country after all.

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Re: American Muslims loyal to the Republic

Postby Oxidant » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:24 pm

I don’t understand how people cannot be loyal to the same country that has given them shelter, food and clean water, the basic necessities. That should be enough in reality; however they are also entitled to numerous social benefits and given access to quality education and are allowed to work. They also given freedom of religious belief and can even take up citizenship if they feel like it.

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Re: American Muslims loyal to the Republic

Postby SahanGalbeed » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:30 pm

Da.mn right , may God bless America !

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Re: American Muslims loyal to the Republic

Postby Beenaale_No1 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:31 pm

Oxidant wrote:I don’t understand how people cannot be loyal to the same country that has given them shelter, food and clean water, the basic necessities. That should be enough in reality; however they are also entitled to numerous social benefits and given access to quality education and are allowed to work. They also given freedom of religious belief and can even take up citizenship if they feel like it.

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What kinda of loyalty?

Represent them in sporting competition? Yes
Fight in their imperialistic wars? No
Adopt the good things of their culture? Yes
Etc.
Etc.

You have to understand, no matter how loyal you are to them, no matter how many wars you fight for them, they will never see you as their equal. Never. Cadaan people have a superiority complex and I'd never go out of my way to please them.

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Re: American Muslims loyal to the Republic

Postby SahanGalbeed » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:36 pm

Beenale 1 , the US armed forces is made up of volunteers . Nobody is asking you to fight for America , not at this point at least , keep it real please !

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Re: American Muslims loyal to the Republic

Postby Oxidant » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:40 pm

Beenaale_No1 wrote:
What kinda of loyalty?

Represent them in sporting competition? Yes
Fight in their imperialistic wars? No
Adopt the good things of their culture? Yes
Etc.
Etc.

You have to understand, no matter how loyal you are to them, no matter how many wars you fight for them, they will never see you as their equal. Never. Cadaan people have a superiority complex and I'd never go out of my way to please them.


In Western society, you have a choice if you want to go to war or not. Simply don’t join the army. Just take the opportunity presented in front of you and cease it. There are millions starving today in Africa; while in the West you have a choice between McDonalds or KFC, you have things go here so don’t overly complicate things.

Work, Study, pay taxed and follow the law of the land. Is following this principle hard at times?

New Flash, you are a Black African, Asians, Arabs and even Hispanics all don’t see you as equal, most think they are all superior to you. Yet I don’t want to sound like an uncle tom, however, Whites currently treat the blacks with the most respect and dignity

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Re: American Muslims loyal to the Republic

Postby Beenaale_No1 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:43 pm

Oxidant wrote:
Beenaale_No1 wrote:
What kinda of loyalty?

Represent them in sporting competition? Yes
Fight in their imperialistic wars? No
Adopt the good things of their culture? Yes
Etc.
Etc.

You have to understand, no matter how loyal you are to them, no matter how many wars you fight for them, they will never see you as their equal. Never. Cadaan people have a superiority complex and I'd never go out of my way to please them.


In Western society, you have a choice if you want to go to war or not. Simply don’t join the army. Just take the opportunity presented in front of you and cease it. There are millions starving today in Africa; while in the West you have a choice between McDonalds or KFC, you have things go here so don’t overly complicate things.

Work, Study, pay taxed and follow the law of the land. Is following this principle hard at times?

New Flash, you are a Black African, Asians, Arabs and even Hispanics all don’t see you as equal, most think they are all superior to you. Yet I don’t want to sound like an uncle tom, however, Whites currently treat the blacks with the most respect and dignity


That should be obligatory for every person who goes to another country for any reason. :up:

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Re: American Muslims loyal to the Republic

Postby Beenaale_No1 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:45 pm

SahanGalbeed wrote:Beenale 1 , the US armed forces is made up of volunteers . Nobody is asking you to fight for America , not at this point at least , keep it real please !


If you are non-white then they shouldn't even be in the US army. They dont belong there.

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Re: American Muslims loyal to the Republic

Postby union » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:47 pm

Beenale, I support the U.S army because it fights for America's interests, and a prosperous free America will benefit me. I support America for purely selfish reasons. :up:

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Re: American Muslims loyal to the Republic

Postby Beenaale_No1 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:48 pm

Oxidant wrote:
Beenaale_No1 wrote:
What kinda of loyalty?

Represent them in sporting competition? Yes
Fight in their imperialistic wars? No
Adopt the good things of their culture? Yes
Etc.
Etc.

You have to understand, no matter how loyal you are to them, no matter how many wars you fight for them, they will never see you as their equal. Never. Cadaan people have a superiority complex and I'd never go out of my way to please them.


In Western society, you have a choice if you want to go to war or not. Simply don’t join the army. Just take the opportunity presented in front of you and cease it. There are millions starving today in Africa; while in the West you have a choice between McDonalds or KFC, you have things go here so don’t overly complicate things.

Work, Study, pay taxed and follow the law of the land. Is following this principle hard at times?

New Flash, you are a Black African, Asians, Arabs and even Hispanics all don’t see you as equal, most think they are all superior to you. Yet I don’t want to sound like an uncle tom, however, Whites currently treat the blacks with the most respect and dignity


Maybe so. But we dont expect any loyalty from one another. And its not Asians or Arabs or Hispanics who run the world and run world economics, geo-politics etc.

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Re: American Muslims loyal to the Republic

Postby Beenaale_No1 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:49 pm

union wrote:Beenale, I support the U.S army because it fights for America's interests, and a prosperous free America will benefit me. I support America for purely selfish reasons. :up:


Go join their army then.

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Re: American Muslims loyal to the Republic

Postby FAH1223 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:49 pm

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Re: American Muslims loyal to the Republic

Postby udun » Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:21 pm

This is what loyalty means in my world: Be a law-abiding citizen in the USA, and do my part for protecting Muslim rights and the rest of fellow Americans; object and protest against the unjust incarcerations of many Americans including many Muslims.

Finally, protest and speak out against the use of America's military might against defenceless Muslims including Palestinians, Somalis, Iraqis, Afghanis, Sudanese, Libyans, Pakistanis, Iranians, and Muslim minorities in the Philippines. Fortunately, there are many Americans who agree with me.

I am a believer every generation of Americans fought for their rights and Muslims should follow a similar path. Eating food, going to school, and voting are not enough. Every generation should be dealing with its time and Muslims in the west should not accept the constant attacks against the religion of Islam. We should do our way to reject and contest those endless attacks without becoming violent.
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Re: American Muslims loyal to the Republic

Postby Executive » Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:24 pm

union wrote:Beenale, I support the U.S army because it fights for America's interests, and a prosperous free America will benefit me. I support America for purely selfish reasons. :up:


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