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Who's worse: Fircoon or Iblis

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Who's worse: Fircoon or Iblis

Postby abdalla11 » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:05 pm

State your reasoning

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Re: Who's worse: Fircoon or Iblis

Postby Mondey » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:09 pm

iblis is worse. fircoon at least repented before he died.

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Re: Who's worse: Fircoon or Iblis

Postby Voltage » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:09 pm

Fircoon is a man who oppressed God's people at one point, was punished, and died like a mere mortal.

Iblis is eternal until the day of judgement whose sole job is to break the link between God and Man.

What do you think?

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Re: Who's worse: Fircoon or Iblis

Postby abdalla11 » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:12 pm

^ Both of you try again

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Re: Who's worse: Fircoon or Iblis

Postby uglybrother » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:13 pm

Iblis because he is the one that caused fircon to behave in the devilish way he did.

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Re: Who's worse: Fircoon or Iblis

Postby Coeus » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:14 pm

Abdullahi Yusuf

He was guided by Iblis for the despicable actions he took by killing somali civilians

He read a book about fircoon and decided to call his tribal land "Puntland", a place where fircoon praised for its resources.

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Re: Who's worse: Fircoon or Iblis

Postby abdalla11 » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:15 pm

^Can't the student surpass his master?

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Re: Who's worse: Fircoon or Iblis

Postby DisplacedDiraac » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:16 pm

Iblis... Because he knew/knows of Allah's existience for sure.. Yet he disobeyed Allah.. :|

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Re: Who's worse: Fircoon or Iblis

Postby uglybrother » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:19 pm

isn't the teacher responsible nonetheless? besides, no one is as good as iblis period!

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Re: Who's worse: Fircoon or Iblis

Postby NoAngst » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:21 pm

Which Fircoon (Pharoah)... the Fircoons were a dynasty--some good, some bad and some insignificant.

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Re: Who's worse: Fircoon or Iblis

Postby abdalla11 » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:22 pm

West,

Lots of people know the existence of Allah yet they disobey Him. Fircoon used to kill the children of Israel because he knew the truth; one day there would be a Messenger from the Bani Israel who would defeat him

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You guys are looking from the wrong perspective
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Re: Who's worse: Fircoon or Iblis

Postby Voltage » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:22 pm

West,

Lots of people know the existence of Allah yet they disobey Him. Fircoon used to kill the children of Israel because he knew the truth; one day there would be a Messenger who would defeat him
You don't make sense. Iblis was made of Fire and was in the Heavens with God when he disobeyed the truth because of pure arrogance and knows full well every truth out there about existence. More than those people who you said "know" the existence of Allah.

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Re: Who's worse: Fircoon or Iblis

Postby JSLBerbera » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:27 pm

fircoon is worse cause he has no power like iblis :lol:

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Re: Who's worse: Fircoon or Iblis

Postby Estarix » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:29 pm

West,

Lots of people know the existence of Allah yet they disobey Him. Fircoon used to kill the children of Israel because he knew the truth; one day there would be a Messenger from the Bani Israel who would defeat him

Uglybrother
You guys are looking from the wrong perspective
How could you even come to compare the two? one disobeyed right in front of god, and threatened god and solely devotes their existance against God and Human cause.
Whereas the other was a mere mortal who like other arrogant individuals only believed in his own authority. He repented, that was when he was able to overcome his arrogance but it was too late.

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Re: Who's worse: Fircoon or Iblis

Postby DisplacedDiraac » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:31 pm

West,

Lots of people know the existence of Allah yet they disobey Him. Fircoon used to kill the children of Israel because he knew the truth; one day there would be a Messenger from the Bani Israel who would defeat him
HUH.. ''Knowing of Allah's existence'' through signs etc is totally different to knowing Allah existence ''for sure'' as he was up in the heavens... He (Ibilis) most likely even seen Allah.. :|



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