Who's worse: Fircoon or Iblis

[abdalla11]

West,

Lots of people know the existence of Allah yet they disobey Him. Fircoon used to kill the children of Israel because he knew the truth; one day there would be a Messenger who would defeat him

You don't make sense. Iblis was made of Fire and was in the Heavens with God when he disobeyed the truth because of pure arrogance and knows full well every truth out there about existence. More than those people who you said "know" the existence of Allah.

The amount of knowledge isn't the question here. knowledge is knowledge. There were people, like the jews, who were expecting the prophet but when he appeared they refused him. That's why the curse of Allah is upon them

[abdalla11]

If you're comparing, you have to analyze what both parties did. You guys are focusing only on one

[DisplacedDiraac]

Simple marka dee.. Iblis made a 'threat' <=--*lack of a better word*.. against Allah.. That he will misguide humans/jinns..

[abdalla11]

What did fircon do?

[uglybrother]

fircoon claimed being God while ibliis didn't?

[DisplacedDiraac]

Apart from killing babies.. Rejecting signs from Allah, like the spliting of the sea and claiming to be God *like the poster above said* I cant think of anything else..

[abdalla11]

Bingo. Eventhough both Fircoon and Iblis prevented people from the right path, fircoon use to torture people who followed Musa and Iblis whispers evil into our hearts, i think Fircoon is worse: he claimed to be God. A funny sheikh said that Iblis, upon hearing Fircoon's claim, said 'Acudubillah'

Apart of killing babies.. And rejecting signs and claiming to be God *like the poster above me said* I cant think of anything else..

Fircoon did the same thing as Iblis which was preventing people from the right path, he forced people while Iblis didn't force anyone. He simply invited them
And on top of that Fircoon claimed to be God.

The reason why Allah belated his punishment is because he was good to his mother, as some scholars said. The same goes to Samiriy, who also belonged to the nation of Musa. A reminder of how important Hooyo is

[Estarix]

He did burn his former wife up, cut the arm and legs of revert magicians and enslaved and oppressed Jews to the point Women were not able to bear male children. He was a tyrant simple.
But even that he is not 1/1000000000000 of what Iblis is.

[abdalla11]

He claimed to be god, he forced people to leave the true religion. Iblis didn't make such a claim nor did/does he use violence

[Estarix]

Iblis and his children have influenced and touched every single human being (except for Prophets) that has walked this Earth starting from Adam and Hawa. Billions of people, Phircoan and Abu Jahil and other evil individuals are simply an example of tyrant - like minded people.

[DisplacedDiraac]

A funny sheikh said that Iblis, upon hearing Fircoon's claim, said 'Acudubillah'

Like Ibilis promised he will lead astray Allah's creation.. Without Ibilis's meddling Fircoon wouldn't be who he was..

[Estarix]

He claimed to be god, he forced people to leave the true religion. Iblis didn't make such a claim nor did/does he use violence

Thats because he did not believe god existed.

You are irrational, good night.

[abdalla11]

Iblis was reprieved until a certain day, Fircoon was mortal and is now dead. Imagine if he was alive today...
Without people like Fircoon, iblis is nothing

[union]

Satan because he rebelled before God himself, and Pharaoh only rebelled against a representative of God. Telling your supervisor off is not as bad as telling the big boss off.

[DisplacedDiraac]

Doesn't the 'Dajjal' also claim to be God..