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Re: Should Somali Atheist be allowed to return

Postby Shirib » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:06 pm

I bet those who dont want Somali gaalo in our country, would probably happily welcome gaalo cadaan into our nation. You are all a disgrace.
Yes i would welcome a gaal ajnabi into Somalia and not a gaal Somali. There's a difference between a kaffir and a murtad

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Re: Should Somali Atheist be allowed to return

Postby AhmedBoqor » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:17 pm

No, there really is no need for a person who claims to have no need in God.

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Re: Should Somali Atheist be allowed to return

Postby NoAngst » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:55 pm

Why not... any Somali can live in Somalia irrespective of creed (or lack of). The future Somali State will be citizenship based. The only relevant criteria for extending citizenship status is whether someone was born in Somalia or has somali parents.

Those of you who say no are really advocating for religious apartheid-one law for Somali Muslims and an entirely separate law for non-Muslim Somalis. This will not only fail to endear Somalia to the rest of World but also result in sanctions on Somalia. The world rejected Apartheid South Africa, what makes you think they'll accept Apartheid Somalia?

As long as non-Muslim Somalis are law-abiding citizens, I'll be happy to have them as my neighbours.
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Re: Should Somali Atheist be allowed to return

Postby DropkickMurphy » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:59 pm

In my opinion hell to the motherforkin no.

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Re: Should Somali Atheist be allowed to return

Postby Beenaale_No1 » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:01 pm

Why not... any Somali can live in Somalia irrespective of creed (or lack of). The future Somali State will be citizenship based. The only relevant criteria for extended citizenship status is whether someone was born in Somalia or has somali parents.

Those of you who say no are really advocating for religious apartheid-one law for Somali Muslims and an entirely separate law for non-Muslim Somalis. This will not only fail to endear Somalia to the rest of World but also result in sanctions on Somalia. The world rejected Apartheid South Africa, what makes you think they'll accept Apartheid Somalia?

As long as non-Muslim Somalis are law-abiding citizens, I'll be happy to have them as my neighbours.
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Also, imagine if Hindu or Christian majority countries adopted that policy too, then the Muslims living in India, Kenya, Malawi etc. would be persecuted. You cant expect Muslim to be treated with dignity when they are a minority in other countries, whilst ad the same time advocating religious discrimination in our nation. :down:

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Re: Should Somali Atheist be allowed to return

Postby AhmedBoqor » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:10 pm

Why not... any Somali can live in Somalia irrespective of creed (or lack of). The future Somali State will be citizenship based. The only relevant criteria for extending citizenship status is whether someone was born in Somalia or has somali parents.

Those of you who say no are really advocating for religious apartheid-one law for Somali Muslims and an entirely separate law for non-Muslim Somalis. This will not only fail to endear Somalia to the rest of World but also result in sanctions on Somalia. The world rejected Apartheid South Africa, what makes you think they'll accept Apartheid Somalia?

As long as non-Muslim Somalis are law-abiding citizens, I'll be happy to have them as my neighbours.
Well actually, religious minorites are allowed to have their own religious laws and they don't have to be obligated by Islamic law, its their choice ultimately.

At the end of day, it's not like you entering Mecca or Medina, you don't have to say a shahada to go into Somalia, so if your an atheist you keep it to yourself.

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Re: Should Somali Atheist be allowed to return

Postby ciyaal_warta » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:35 pm

Should Somali Atheist be allowed to Return once there is peace in Somalia? And by atheist i mean those who left Islam and don't hide their gaalnimo. :som:

yap they should be allowed that is their home and they have every right to live in it..as long as they dont start spreading their blasphemy ideas

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Re: Should Somali Atheist be allowed to return

Postby idol » Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:08 pm

Yes they should be allowed to live in their own country. Warlords and Alshabab are no better than an atheist, atleast an atheist doesn't kill people and run behind religion. If we are going to tolerate looters, killers and warlords then we should also let atheists live in Somalia.

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Re: Should Somali Atheist be allowed to return

Postby uglybrother » Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:34 pm

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Let atheists become a dominating culture like it is in the west? I'd fear for the future of Somalia.

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Re: Should Somali Atheist be allowed to return

Postby mcali » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:04 pm

Why not... any Somali can live in Somalia irrespective of creed (or lack of). The future Somali State will be citizenship based. The only relevant criteria for extended citizenship status is whether someone was born in Somalia or has somali parents.

Those of you who say no are really advocating for religious apartheid-one law for Somali Muslims and an entirely separate law for non-Muslim Somalis. This will not only fail to endear Somalia to the rest of World but also result in sanctions on Somalia. The world rejected Apartheid South Africa, what makes you think they'll accept Apartheid Somalia?

As long as non-Muslim Somalis are law-abiding citizens, I'll be happy to have them as my neighbours.
:up:

Also, imagine if Hindu or Christian majority countries adopted that policy too, then the Muslims living in India, Kenya, Malawi etc. would be persecuted. You cant expect Muslim to be treated with dignity when they are a minority in other countries, whilst ad the same time advocating religious discrimination in our nation. :down:

sxb beenale you act as if Kenya and india are being nice to us by letting us practice our religion and propagate it. On the contrary they are doing it because that is in their constitution as far as i know. Us as muslims have a constitution known as sharia law. We have to follow it. I like how dr. zaikr naik answered this type of question. He said if we know 2+2=4 why would we allow our people or children to be taught 2+2=6. We have to show them why its wrong, not let them randomly choose.

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Re: Should Somali Atheist be allowed to return

Postby Beenaale_No1 » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:18 pm

mcali

Th only time Shariah can be practised is when the country is 100% Muslim. Do you think nations like Egypt and Syria can implement Shariah law? No, cos they have a significant number of non-Muslim Arabs living amongst them.

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Re: Should Somali Atheist be allowed to return

Postby XaliimoFarax » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:21 pm

I am scared they will corrupt others. Somalia is already corrupted society as it is.

Plus whenever I see Arab gaalo they are usually the most vocal anti-Muslims so I am just assuming Somalis will be the same in order to differentiate themselves from the rest.

Nothing personal but for the betterment of the Somali society 'don't tell don't ask' policy should be implemented perhaps as a compromise?

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Re: Should Somali Atheist be allowed to return

Postby Beenaale_No1 » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:28 pm

I am scared they will corrupt others. Somalia is already corrupted society as it is.

Plus whenever I see Arab gaalo they are usually the most vocal anti-Muslims so I am just assuming Somalis will be the same in order to differentiate themselves from the rest.

Nothing personal but for the betterment of the Somali society 'don't tell don't ask' policy should be implemented perhaps as a compromise?
If we get a society where a significant number are non-Muslims then it should be outlawed to collect date regarding religion and ethnic groups.

Imagine if ethnic Somalis lost the majority status and Bantus became majority. Guys like Coeus would get a heart attack. :lol:

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Re: Should Somali Atheist be allowed to return

Postby uglybrother » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:38 pm

I am scared they will corrupt others. Somalia is already corrupted society as it is.

Plus whenever I see Arab gaalo they are usually the most vocal anti-Muslims so I am just assuming Somalis will be the same in order to differentiate themselves from the rest.

Nothing personal but for the betterment of the Somali society 'don't tell don't ask' policy should be implemented perhaps as a compromise?
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Re: Should Somali Atheist be allowed to return

Postby mcali » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:46 pm

mcali

Th only time Shariah can be practised is when the country is 100% Muslim. Do you think nations like Egypt and Syria can implement Shariah law? No, cos they have a significant number of non-Muslim Arabs living amongst them.
sharia law was established prior to the demise of the khalifa. In it's prime it had mad gaalo under its rule. They were treated with the utmost respect and given their rights. So if it worked for them back then it can sure as hell work for us now.


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