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So does Somalia belong in "African" crowd or the "Muslim"

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:09 am
by Voltage
crowd now? Ethnic Somalis are a Muslim and Black African society, but now comes the choice to make a concrete decision. Do we belong in the Black African crowd or the Muslim/Arab crowd?

We have seen Kuwait, we have seen Qatar, we have seen UAE, we have seen Saudi Arabia, we have seen Turkey, we have even seen the Palestinians.

The Palestinians donated more money to the Somali famine than half of the African continent and the Saudi public gave private donations more than what all of African donated to Somalia. Even half of what African donated came primarily from two Arab/Muslim states; Egypt and Algeria while two of the richest countries, Black Nigeria and South Africa watched from the sidelines.

In fact one little Ghanian schoolboy gave more than a third of African continent combined and only one president who is not from the drought countries even cared to show up. All this while this is the biggest humanitarian situation in the world and African Somali babies die of starvation?

Black means nothing and African means nothing. Somali identity and culture seems to have rightly aligned with Muslim Easterners.

Re: So does Somalia belong in "African" crowd or the "Muslim

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:16 am
by Alchemist
crowd now? Ethnic Somalis are a Muslim and Black African society, but now comes the choice to make a concrete decision. Do we belong in the Black African crowd or the Muslim/Arab crowd?

We have seen Kuwait, we have seen Qatar, we have seen UAE, we have seen Saudi Arabia, we have seen Turkey, we have even seen the Palestinians.

The Palestinians donated more money to the Somali famine than half of the African continent and the Saudi public gave private donations more than what all of African donated to Somalia. Even half of what African donated came primarily from two Arab/Muslim states; Egypt and Algeria while two of the richest countries, Black Nigeria and South Africa watched from the sidelines.

In fact one little Ghanian schoolboy gave more than a third of African continent combined and only one president who is not from the drought countries even cared to show up. All this while this is the biggest humanitarian situation in the world and African Somali babies die of starvation?

Black means nothing and African means nothing. Somali identity and culture seems to have rightly aligned with Muslim Easterners.
:up: :up:

Re: So does Somalia belong in "African" crowd or the "Muslim

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:16 am
by Meru
crowd now? Ethnic Somalis are a Muslim and Black African society, but now comes the choice to make a concrete decision. Do we belong in the Black African crowd or the Muslim/Arab crowd?

We have seen Kuwait, we have seen Qatar, we have seen UAE, we have seen Saudi Arabia, we have seen Turkey, we have even seen the Palestinians.

The Palestinians donated more money to the Somali famine than half of the African continent and the Saudi public gave private donations more than what all of African donated to Somalia. Even half of what African donated came primarily from two Arab/Muslim states; Egypt and Algeria while two of the richest countries, Black Nigeria and South Africa watched from the sidelines.

In fact one little Ghanian schoolboy gave more than a third of African continent combined and only one president who is not from the drought countries even cared to show up. All this while this is the biggest humanitarian situation in the world and African Somali babies die of starvation?

Black means nothing and African means nothing. Somali identity and culture seems to have rightly aligned with Muslim Easterners.
why dont you just cut the long story short and declare you are an arab

Re: So does Somalia belong in "African" crowd or the "Muslim

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:18 am
by Knight of Wisdom
I think we belong in the South-East Asian crowd. We have more similarities with the Indonesian, the Malaysians than any "crowed" in the World.

Re: So does Somalia belong in "African" crowd or the "Muslim

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:20 am
by FAH1223
crowd now? Ethnic Somalis are a Muslim and Black African society, but now comes the choice to make a concrete decision. Do we belong in the Black African crowd or the Muslim/Arab crowd?

We have seen Kuwait, we have seen Qatar, we have seen UAE, we have seen Saudi Arabia, we have seen Turkey, we have even seen the Palestinians.

The Palestinians donated more money to the Somali famine than half of the African continent and the Saudi public gave private donations more than what all of African donated to Somalia. Even half of what African donated came primarily from two Arab/Muslim states; Egypt and Algeria while two of the richest countries, Black Nigeria and South Africa watched from the sidelines.

In fact one little Ghanian schoolboy gave more than a third of African continent combined and only one president who is not from the drought countries even cared to show up. All this while this is the biggest humanitarian situation in the world and African Somali babies die of starvation?

Black means nothing and African means nothing. Somali identity and culture seems to have rightly aligned with Muslim Easterners.
:up: i thought this to myself after seeing the news about the summit in Addis

Re: So does Somalia belong in "African" crowd or the "Muslim

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:21 am
by Advo
Muslim comes first :up:

Re: So does Somalia belong in "African" crowd or the "Muslim

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:24 am
by 934
Somalia belong well away from the bantu nations. It doesn't matter as long as we ain't associated with those things.

Give me a Kippah and call me a Jew anyday before been associated with an apright walking ape.

Re: So does Somalia belong in "African" crowd or the "Muslim

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:24 am
by Meru
Angola alone gave 5 million dollars, total amount AU Will give is 500 million dollars. now do i feel like am trying to convince someone to remain in Africa. its like you expected what?? that they will donate billions not forgetting all those are poor countries. very sad for anyone to feel thankless :down: :down:

Re: So does Somalia belong in "African" crowd or the "Muslim

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:26 am
by Meru
Somalia belong well away from the bantu nations. It doesn't matter as long as we ain't associated with those things.

Give me a Kippah and call me a Jew anyday before been associated with an apright walking ape.
you are a monkey yourself,actually a shit wiping monkey :clap:

Re: So does Somalia belong in "African" crowd or the "Muslim

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:26 am
by Alchemist
I lived in the middle east and i am in Africa at the moment and i can tell you one thing. When your living in arab countries you might get some racism but there is a sense of brotherhood a muslim brotherhood. And which country doesnt have racism, somalis are racist to everyone and themselves. But in Africa you can sense there is no such connection, if anything there is envy. With most kenyans you get the feeling at any day they can turn on you so that is nothing compared to an arab calling you an abdi once in a while. you call him abdi of America :P

Re: So does Somalia belong in "African" crowd or the "Muslim

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:27 am
by 934
Angola alone gave 5 million dollars, total amount AU Will give is 500 million dollars. now do i feel like am trying to convince someone to remain in Africa. its like you expected what?? that they will donate billions not forgetting all those are poor countries. very sad for anyone to feel thankless :down: :down:
Its very sad for your bantu ass to remain in a none bantu forum.

Why don't you go and find a tree to climb or a banana to peel.

Re: So does Somalia belong in "African" crowd or the "Muslim

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:30 am
by FAH1223
Angola alone gave 5 million dollars, total amount AU Will give is 500 million dollars. now do i feel like am trying to convince someone to remain in Africa. its like you expected what?? that they will donate billions not forgetting all those are poor countries. very sad for anyone to feel thankless :down: :down:
"We counted about $46 million in cash pledges," Irungu Houghton, pan Africa policy director for aid group Oxfam, told Reuters.

"Just 21 countries made pledges out of 54 and, of the $46 million, $20 million came from three states - Algeria, Angola, and Egypt."

Activists singled out Africa's economic powerhouses Nigeria and South Africa for criticism after Nigeria pledged just $2 million and South Africa's figure of $10 million was questioned.
http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/i ... 1L20110826
I lived in the middle east and i am in Africa at the moment and i can tell you one thing. When your living in arab countries you might get some racism but there is a sense of brotherhood a muslim brotherhood. And which country doesnt have racism, somalis are racist to everyone and themselves. But in Africa you can sense there is no such connection, if anything there is envy. With most kenyans you get the feeling at any day they can turn on you so that is nothing compared to an arab calling you an abdi once in a while. you call him abdi of America :P
lol, I remember when I went to Sinai... this guy in Sharm Al-Sheikh said to me in broken english "you look african" and i said "aren't you african"

smart alek says "of course... you think i'm european?"

i tell him to look in the mirror to see how he really looked, which was french wannabe :lol: :down:

Re: So does Somalia belong in "African" crowd or the "Muslim

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:33 am
by Meru
THIS ARE THE ARABS FOR YOU. MOST KILLED IN LIBYA ARE SOMALIS,BECAUSE GUESS WHAT, YOU ARE BLACK
LIBYA: Rebels execute black immigrants while forces kidnap others
ADDIS ABABA — While much of the world’s attention is focusing on crude oil prices and the Libyan pipelines in the east of the country– human right groups say rebels are committing crimes against humanity.

In east Libya, African hunt began as towns and cities began fall under the control of Libyan rebels, mobs and gangs. They started to detain, insult, rape and even executing black immigrants, students and refugees.

In the past two weeks, more than 100 Africans from various Sub-Sahara states are believed to have been killed by Libyan rebels and their supporters.

According to Somali refugees in Libya, at least five Somalis from Somaliland and Somalia were executed in Tripoli and Benghazi by anti-Gaddafi mobs. Dozens of refugees and immigrants workers from Ethiopia, Eritrea, Ghana, Nigeria, Chad, Mali and Niger have been killed, some of them were led into the desert and stabbed to death. Black Libyan men receiving medical care in hospitals in Benghazi were reportedly abducted by armed rebels. They are part of more than 200 African immigrants held in secret locations by the rebels.

In many disputes involving Libyan residents and black Africans, the Libyans are turning in the Africans as mercenaries.

Thousands more Africans caught up in this mercenary hysteria are terrified. Some barricaded themselves in their homes, while others hid in the desert. Insulted, threatened, beaten, chased and robbed. Their only crime was being black and therefore treated as “mercenaries” of Gaddafi.
Rebels hold a young man at gunpoint between the towns of Brega and Ras Lanuf (Reuters/Goran Tomasevic)

Rebels hold a young man at gunpoint between the towns of Brega and Ras Lanuf (Reuters/Goran Tomasevic)

While the airing of Gaddafi’s so called “black mercenaries” by Western media has ignited the issue, some say an xenophobic attitude towards these refugees and labourers has existed for years. They say the current attacks are racially motivated because the rebels have released many actual Libyan mercenaries and soldiers under a tribal agreement. They believe many Arabs felt their Libyan leader was abandoning them for black Africans ever since he became a “pan-Africanist”. Many immigrants were regularly victims of racism.

In many situations, Gaddafi and his inner circle preferred black Africans and Libyans from the south over Libyans from the east. Now the angry mobs using the revolutionary movement across Arabia and North Africa are hunting down black people.

Mohamed Abdillahi, Somaliland, 25, was sleeping at his home in Zouara, when the mobs arrived. “They knocked on the door around 1 o’clock in the morning. They said get out, we’ll kill you, you are blacks, foreigners, clear.”

The testimonials and are very similar among the thousands of Africans that saw the ugly side of Libya in the past weeks. “They have attacked us, they took everything from us,” said Ali Farah, Somali labourer 29 years.

“They wanted to kill civilians, they beat many of us. To me, they are animals,” says Jamal Hussein, 25 years Sudanese worker.

Many of the fleeing Africans are terrified to tell their stories. At the checkpoint, they do not mingle with others. When asked about their ordeal, they just freeze, “they stopped us many times and said not tell what has happened here, say there are no problems,” Elias Nour from Ethiopia said.

“For the past seven days, my whole family has been holed up at home without any food, running water or electricity, we appeal for urgent intervention,” Mohamed Abdi from Somaliland told local reporters by cellphone.

In the latest reports reaching Somalilandpress from Tripoli, forces loyal to Col. Muammar Gaddafi have reportedly began kidnapping African and Libyan youths from their homes and universities. They are said to be preparing them for a showdown against the rebels. The kidnapped youths include five teenagers from Somaliland.

Many Africans have virtually nothing after years in Libya, many have been looted, robbed, while others saw their living quarters and apartments go in flames. Now they are praying to God to send them home.

While the international leaders are busy drafting resolutions to dismantle Muammar Gaddafi, the African Union has not yet commented on the situation in Libya.

Meanwhile, the International Criminal Court is said to have started a formal inquiry into possible crimes against humanity in Libya that will investigate the Libyan regime.

Re: So does Somalia belong in "African" crowd or the "Muslim

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:37 am
by 934
Poor young deluded Meru.

No amount of articles can make a difference. Your bantu ass is rejected.

Re: So does Somalia belong in "African" crowd or the "Muslim

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:40 am
by union
There are thousands of Black African soldiers in Somalia trying to bring about peace. Only with African support did Somalia bring order back to its capital after twenty years of chaos and destruction. African nations like Kenya have opened their doors generously and have allowed hundreds of thousands if not millions of Somalis to migrate and seek refuge into their land and open businesses and flourish, while the Arabs are known to deport Somalis by the planeload back to Somalia and the ones they allow to stay they subjugate and discriminate against in the worst manner. Somalia is a coastal nation, it will always have a connection to the East, but that connection will never eclipse our brotherhood with our fellow blacks. :up: