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Re: A Gara Man Cushite Thread

Postby Gara Man » Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:34 pm

Oromo means people of the Omo river. They came originally from the Southwest Ethiopian highlands, somewhere near the Sidama homeland, and subsequently conquered almost all of South-Central Ethiopia.

Oromos aren't native to the Ahmar mountains in the East.
Funny you mention "Omo" because I have read where people classified Somalis as Omo Tanas? Actually I think in terms of language, the somali tongue is very close to natives of that region.

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Re: A Gara Man Cushite Thread

Postby Mckuus » Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:22 pm

Those people (like the Rendille etc) descent from ancient Somalis who had a bit of fun with Omotic women. You know they got their camels from the north.

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Re: A Gara Man Cushite Thread

Postby Gara Man » Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:06 pm

For some reason thats just hard to believe :lol:

but what makes you believe there could not be camels from northern keyna turkana?
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Re: A Gara Man Cushite Thread

Postby Mckuus » Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:58 pm

The camel was first domesticated in the Arabian Peninsula or Somaliland, it is not a Kenyan animal. The very presence of camel pastoralism in Rendille country represents contacts with Northerners.

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Re: A Gara Man Cushite Thread

Postby Gara Man » Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:11 pm

The camel was first domesticated in the Arabian Peninsula or Somaliland, it is not a Kenyan animal. The very presence of camel pastoralism in Rendille country represents contacts with Northerners.
But it is not only the Rendile or Somali who have them?

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Re: A Gara Man Cushite Thread

Postby BlackVelvet » Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:22 pm

Damn hadn't realised there were so many Oromos on SNet.

ps :lol: @ OP don't know if you meant it or not but funny either way :lol: :up:

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Re: A Gara Man Cushite Thread

Postby Mckuus » Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:40 pm

But it is not only the Rendile or Somali who have them?
The camel is not terribly useful in the Ethiopian highlands, so it must have been Somalis who introduced it to others.

Turkana are Nilotes who only recently came from Southern Sudan, which historically had no camels.

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Re: A Gara Man Cushite Thread

Postby Gara Man » Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:30 pm

Damn hadn't realised there were so many Oromos on SNet.

ps :lol: @ OP don't know if you meant it or not but funny either way :lol: :up:
The funny thing is people here took this as something serious :? :lol:

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Re: A Gara Man Cushite Thread

Postby Gara Man » Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:32 pm

But it is not only the Rendile or Somali who have them?
The camel is not terribly useful in the Ethiopian highlands, so it must have been Somalis who introduced it to others.

Turkana are Nilotes who only recently came from Southern Sudan, which historically had no camels.
When i am talking Turkana I am talking about Lake Turkana not the tribe. The people around there do carry camel I believe.

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Re: A Gara Man Cushite Thread

Postby BlackVelvet » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:07 pm

Damn hadn't realised there were so many Oromos on SNet.

ps :lol: @ OP don't know if you meant it or not but funny either way :lol: :up:
The funny thing is people here took this as something serious :? :lol:
:lol: I thought it was a joke until I saw the arguments

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Re: A Gara Man Cushite Thread

Postby Mckuus » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:20 pm

When i am talking Turkana I am talking about Lake Turkana not the tribe. The people around there do carry camel I believe.
Ok, but still it has been introduced to them by Somalis as the camel is not native to that area.

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Re: A Gara Man Cushite Thread

Postby gurey25 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:42 pm

funny thing is they did a genetic study on camels in the horn and they are from arabia.

the beja got it from sinai nomads , and then took them all the way down to eritrea, the afar then adopted the camel
later the somalis..

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Re: A Gara Man Cushite Thread

Postby Monk-of-Mogadishu » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:57 pm

Somalis are cattle-owners, not camel riders. Camels are very new to the culture, slightly under or over a thousand years I'd say. Somalis are much closer to their Nilotic neighbors in culture and custom, than North Africans or people of the near-east.

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Re: A Gara Man Cushite Thread

Postby Mckuus » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:02 pm

Somalis are cattle-owners, not camel riders. Camels are very new to the culture, slightly under or over a thousand years I'd say. Somalis are much closer to their Nilotic neighbors in culture and custom, than North Africans or people of the near-east.
Many Nilotes in Kenya have significant Cushitic influence, particularly the Samburu and Maasai (they use the Gada system and whatnot), those are classified as Nilo-Hamites. However, you won't find any similarities between the pure Nilotes of South Sudan/North Uganda and Cushites. Those people are quite alien to Cushites.

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Re: A Gara Man Cushite Thread

Postby Voltage » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:07 pm

Somalis are cattle-owners, not camel riders. Camels are very new to the culture, slightly under or over a thousand years I'd say. Somalis are much closer to their Nilotic neighbors in culture and custom, than North Africans or people of the near-east.
Somalia's environment has been like that for tens of thousands of years and the Somali people culturally, historically, and geographically have had little to do with cattle which is very unsuitable for the type of environment the Somali people formed.


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