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I am very much impressed about we muslims obsession by wat is between the legs of women!
our shekhs spend time and energy to convince womanfolk to hide their valuables!

In the past, most societies, by forbidding zina,were ensuring that the official father was the biologial father; back then birth controlling was rudimantary.
The sexual liberation of the west is a direct consequence of the scientific breakthrough in birth control...
no fear of unwanted child for women/girls + no fear of partner's accidental pregnancy with another man for men = sexual liberty!!!

Please do notice that zina was taboo, long after dechristianization of europe further confiming it was fundamentally linked with birth control!

This brings me to ask the central question : why is zina forbidden in Islam? wat is the rational behind it?
birth control? science has brought definitif solution to birth control!
Moral question? honestly i dont think we muslims are more moral than other people, or that our womanfolk are more devout to their husbands/partners!

So what is the rational of forbidding consented sexual partnership between consenting couple

please dont tell me its to avoid hell fire, i have already said i dont care of hell fire or janna!!

B.

What is the poit of explaining to you. its not like you will understand it anyway. If you could your people wouldn't be slaves 2011 to lice-infested amxaaras and tigres.

Take your anti-Islamic sentiment to those who will appreciate.

Kuttuble, fils de kuttuble... va voir si je suis ailleurs

B.

Social problems, and loads of them. Birth control is not and will never be 100% effective, plus a list of other problems but Allah knows better than we do, that's why he's forbidden it.

You have issues like salman rushdie and i am very suspicious of your anti-islamic nonesense.

Thanku AhmedBoqor, but one can retort that the west didnt face any social issues as consequence of sexual liberation.

934, this is above your capacity, please respectfully leave this thread;
there are high caliber shyuuks on this forum; they will hopefully bring some answers!

B.

You are right, anti-Islamic palava is above my capacity and i will respectfuly take my leave.

Thanku AhmedBoqor, but one can retort that the west didnt face any social issues as consequence of sexual liberation.
934, this is above your capacity, please respectfully leave this thread;
there are high caliber shyuuks on this forum; they will hopefully bring some answers!

B.

the destruction of marriage, the destruction of families because of the baby mama, baby father drama, the spread of STDs is more prevalent now than before the 1960s, higher abortion rates means more complications for many females

i mean look at the Maury show and see how the African Americans and Whites are so backward with their care free love making and all this drama STILL TODAY in the 21st century because people run away from responsibility.

The sexual revolution was a step in making our society less responsible for themselves and their offspring

if you want to have casual sex, and parade it around, and have several babies mamas..
its your choice you are a free man...

just do not bother muslims with it.