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Re: Shire Jama Script (Somali written language)
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:54 am
by Grant
I don't get these ignorant fools.
Somalia had NO official written language, every piece of written work was written in Italian, Arabic or English. All the governments in Somalia prior the Siad Barre revolution failed to create and implement the Somali written language.
One of the biggest achievement of the revolutionary government was the implement and creation of the Somali script. With thanks to academic professor Shire Ahmed who designed and worked hard to create a script to a precise perfection let it be economic wise or being close to matching a script with our language.
All the governments before Siad Barre failed to implement a script to our language, they pushed and shoved eachother to use Arabic text, Osmaniya, and others. Which all failed to present our language.
We should be proud of the Shire Jama script, and we should be proud of the revolutionary government for making it possible.
Eyes only,
This thread wasn't about who created the X. Cause the Somali script we use in Somalia, is created by Shire Jama, there is nothing in our script that comes from another person. Somalia has only 1 script, that is Shire Jama script
You missed the point completely.
Re: Shire Jama Script (Somali written language)
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:57 am
by XimanJaale
I don't get these ignorant fools.
Somalia had NO official written language, every piece of written work was written in Italian, Arabic or English. All the governments in Somalia prior the Siad Barre revolution failed to create and implement the Somali written language.
One of the biggest achievement of the revolutionary government was the implement and creation of the Somali script. With thanks to academic professor Shire Ahmed who designed and worked hard to create a script to a precise perfection let it be economic wise or being close to matching a script with our language.
All the governments before Siad Barre failed to implement a script to our language, they pushed and shoved eachother to use Arabic text, Osmaniya, and others. Which all failed to present our language.
We should be proud of the Shire Jama script, and we should be proud of the revolutionary government for making it possible.
Eyes only,
This thread wasn't about who created the X. Cause the Somali script we use in Somalia, is created by Shire Jama, there is nothing in our script that comes from another person. Somalia has only 1 script, that is Shire Jama script
You missed the point completely.
This thread is about Shire Jama script (Somali written language). What other point is this thread about?
Re: Shire Jama Script (Somali written language)
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:04 pm
by eyes-only
Grant, I don't think it was that complex to write romanised Somali, I mean if you know how to write English and can speak Somali...it seems pretty logical way of writing. Maybe it was complex to decide which script to pick in the end but writing ba ta ja xa qa ra sa dha ... doesn't seem that hard compared to other scripts around the world. Maybe it seemed huge because most Somalis were illiterate at the time.
Ximan, as far as I know, af Somali is written in Latin/Roman alphabet with a few adaptations made by some scholars in the 60s and 70s. There is no Somali script belonging to a person.
Re: Shire Jama Script (Somali written language)
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:06 pm
by Voltage
I suppose if Indhacade made the adaptation, the achievement would be stapled on the refrigerator door.
Dad baa cuqdad u dhimanaya.
Re: Shire Jama Script (Somali written language)
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:12 pm
by XimanJaale
Eyes only,
Latin alphabet is afcourse not created by Somalis. Many Somali scholars tried to figure which text/alphabet to use for Somali language. That is one stage
Shire Jama was one of the few scholars that has chosen the latin text. However no scholar successfully used the latin in the Somali language apart from Shire Jama.
Its not easy to design the latin text in Somali language, it takes hard work and knowledge. Thanks to Shire Jama, he had successfully designed the Somali script that is nearest to our language.
He is the father of the Somali written language, thanks to him we can able to read and write Somali
You cannot reject that he is the inventor of Somali written language otherwise you denying the Somali history.
Re: Shire Jama Script (Somali written language)
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:13 pm
by accident
Re: Shire Jama Script (Somali written language)
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:24 pm
by eyes-only
"Inventor of the Somali language"?
Okay, I'm not denying he helped in adapting the latin alphabet for the Somali language and as a result we are able to enjoy reading and writing af Somali in the style we do now...laakin there is no point in going OTT.
All I'm saying is, it was not a new script invented by the man and it really is not that complex considering there are many languages that adapted the latin alphabet. So calling it the Shire Jama script is a little misleading.
Re: Shire Jama Script (Somali written language)
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:29 pm
by XimanJaale
"Inventor of the Somali language"?
Okay, I'm not denying he helped in adapting the latin alphabet for the Somali language and as a result we are able to enjoy reading and writing af Somali in the style we do now...laakin there is no point in going OTT.
All I'm saying is, it was not a new script invented by the man and it really is not that complex considering there are many languages that adapted the latin alphabet. So calling it the Shire Jama script is a little misleading.
I think you have reading problem.
Read again...slowly this time.
The Somali script was implemented by the Revolutionary government, were they chose to use Shire Jama Script as the Somali written language. Shire Jama successfully created a script that perfects our language.
He is the creator of the Somali script. No point arguing
Re: Shire Jama Script (Somali written language)
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:42 pm
by eyes-only
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Okay man, whatever you say. Can't believe I'm discussing this with you. You need to read slowly yourself.
@ "a script that perfects our language"
Oh what an imperfect language we must have had. Can't imagine what it must have been like.
Re: Shire Jama Script (Somali written language)
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:44 pm
by accident
^
Okay man, whatever you say. Can't believe I'm discussing this with you. You need to read slowly yourself.
@ "a script that perfects our language"
Oh what an imperfect language we must have had. Can't imagine what it must have been like.
Re: Shire Jama Script (Somali written language)
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:49 pm
by XimanJaale
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Okay man, whatever you say. Can't believe I'm discussing this with you. You need to read slowly yourself.
@ "a script that perfects our language"
Oh what an imperfect language we must have had. Can't imagine what it must have been like.
You cannot create a script easily, it has to match and perfect our oral language.
None of the Somalis in diaspora specially the younger generation can write the official Somali written language properly, they just write what the pronounce. Thats is wrong. We should write Somali language properly according to the official written language of Somalia which is Shire Jama script.
Go to Somalia and study your language you will learn alot. I'm sure you will appreciate the Somali written language inventor then.
Its sad that you try to perfect the English written language, I bet you took part in spelling bee's and english grammar lesson. But you take the Somali written language as a joke, be proud of your mother language. Learn your language properly
Don't let hate make you think that Shire Jama is not the inventor of Somali official written language, cause your silly arguments sounds like your a hater.
You acknowledge foreign inventors but you reject Somali inventors
Re: Shire Jama Script (Somali written language)
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:49 pm
by qoraxeey
Re: Shire Jama Script (Somali written language)
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:56 pm
by Grant
One of the ironies that came out of the recent Peace Corps reunions is that nearly everyone gets confused by the "New Letters". We all learned with Hirsi's script and still think with the old spellings.
Re: Shire Jama Script (Somali written language)
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:59 pm
by XimanJaale
One of the ironies that came out of the recent Peace Corps reunions is that nearly everyone gets confused by the "New Letters". We all learned with Hirsi's script and still think with the old spellings.
What is a Hirsi script? Nowhere in the Somali history mentions it. No where in the Somali education system from the 60s to the present ever heard of it.
Care to explain to us what a Hirsi script is?
Re: Shire Jama Script (Somali written language)
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:21 pm
by LiquidHYDROGEN
Latin script
We should have come up with our own script instead.
