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الحجاج ابن يوسف الثقفي

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The father of all modern day Arab dictators in his famous speech.Its amazing how relevant and true his speech is even after a 1000 years.
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خطبته حين ولي العراق
فلما كان اليوم الثالث خرج من القصر فسمع تكبيرا في السوق فراعه ذلك فصعد المنبر فحمد الله وأثنى عليه وصلى على نبيه ثم قال :

:يأهل العراق يأهل الشقاق والنفاق ومساوئ الأخلاق وبني اللكيعة وعبيد العصا وأولاد الإماء والفقع بالقرقر إني سمعت تكبيرا لا يراد الله به وإنما يراد به الشيطان ألا إنها عجاجة تحتها قصف وإنما مثلي ومثلكم ما قال عمرو بن براق الهمذاني

وكنت إذا قوم غزوني غزوتهم فهل أنا في ذايا لهمدان ظالم
متى تجمع القلب الذكي و صارما و أنفا حميا تجتنبك المظالم
والله لا تقرع عصا عصا إلا جعلتها كأمس الدابر
but he described them very well. الله ما سلط عليهم بالحجاح من غير سبب
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Re: الحجاج ابن يوسف الثقفي

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samadoon muxu yiri sxb ii tafsiir,
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Xajaj ibn Yusuf was 100 times better than these modenr day Western owned Jababiruun
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abdulsamad, it's hard to translate but this i found online:

""In the name of God, I take note of wickedness and I return in equal measure! I see ripe heads which are ready for the harvest, which have been arranged to let the blood flow between turbans and beards! For long you have been following the course of bias and have been keeping to the side of obstinacy, but now, for God, I’ll bark you as well as people are used to doing with trees, I’ll thin you out as if you were mimosas and I’ll beat you as well as people are used to doing at the well with the camel which is extraneous to the herd. For God, I don’t make promises without keeping them. For God you will remain on the right path or I’ll make you worry about your physical conditions. If I should find here anyone who belongs to al Muhallab’s expedition three days from now, I’ll shed his blood and I’ll dispossess him of his belongings!".

ps; not the all speech tho.
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hyperactive wrote:abdulsamad, it's hard to translate but this i found online:

""In the name of God, I take note of wickedness and I return in equal measure! I see ripe heads which are ready for the harvest, which have been arranged to let the blood flow between turbans and beards! For long you have been following the course of bias and have been keeping to the side of obstinacy, but now, for God, I’ll bark you as well as people are used to doing with trees, I’ll thin you out as if you were mimosas and I’ll beat you as well as people are used to doing at the well with the camel which is extraneous to the herd. For God, I don’t make promises without keeping them. For God you will remain on the right path or I’ll make you worry about your physical conditions. If I should find here anyone who belongs to al Muhallab’s expedition three days from now, I’ll shed his blood and I’ll dispossess him of his belongings!".

ps; not the all speech tho.
thanks bro, :up:
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hyperactive wrote:خطبته حين ولي العراق
فلما كان اليوم الثالث خرج من القصر فسمع تكبيرا في السوق فراعه ذلك فصعد المنبر فحمد الله وأثنى عليه وصلى على نبيه ثم قال :

:يأهل العراق يأهل الشقاق والنفاق ومساوئ الأخلاق وبني اللكيعة وعبيد العصا وأولاد الإماء والفقع بالقرقر إني سمعت تكبيرا لا يراد الله به وإنما يراد به الشيطان ألا إنها عجاجة تحتها قصف وإنما مثلي ومثلكم ما قال عمرو بن براق الهمذاني

وكنت إذا قوم غزوني غزوتهم فهل أنا في ذايا لهمدان ظالم
متى تجمع القلب الذكي و صارما و أنفا حميا تجتنبك المظالم
والله لا تقرع عصا عصا إلا جعلتها كأمس الدابر
but he described them very well. الله ما سلط عليهم بالحجاح من غير سبب
:lol: :lol:
caadi ma eheen ninkan walle,he was a legend on a league of his own.he was the only guy who have ever united the entire iraq under one banner before Saddam.
p.s: I thought he gave this speech on his first day in Basrah though.At least that's how the musalsal portrayed it.



p.s: whats والفقع بالقرقر? :?

Seemyar:you think the hajaj was better than anyone? you are out of your mind.This guy was the fircoon of his time and a tyrant per excellence.he is credited for killing close to hundred thousand men,killed a companion of the prophet and brought down the kabbah through bombing it with ancient cannons(as some narrations has it).he was a nutjob
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Re: الحجاج ابن يوسف الثقفي

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sama, bro, yours was first day. the one i quoted was the 3rd day he entered kufa.

seemeyer, just check the was he dead and you know if he is better!!!
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waa gartay,but the part i underlined was the same so i thought it was the same speech.
p.s:what does faqcu bil qac qac though?
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here yashabah, فقع قرقر be rada'at ahl al iraq.
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sama, check this with his wife. the guy wanst normal and seems every one around him :lol:

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
oh shidh,she really got bk at him
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smart lady
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who recorded all of this conversations word bye word sentence bye sentence? , because those days there were no voice recording devices as we have today. i think most of this speechs or alleged speech LIKE THIS one XUJAAAJ IBN YUUSUF , not only this one but many other ancient arabs speechs are actually second hand creation of storytellers after houred of years the time this people lived.
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Umar ibn Abd al Aziz said of Al Hajjaj that if the sins of all the people were to be weighed together against Al Hajjaj's sins, his sins would be heavier than the sins of all people! He led the brutal attack on Abdullah ibn al Zubayr in Makkah and was responsible for his horrific death :down:
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