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Re: DR-YALAXOOW

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:33 pm
by DR-YALAXOOW
waa hurday nabadgelyo :up:

Re: DR-YALAXOOW

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:44 pm
by Shift
Every soul must taste death,he will return and taste death.

"Every soul shall have taste of death; In the end to us shall ye be brought back"
.(Surah Al-'Ankabut The Spider 29:57)

"Peace be upon me the day I was born, and the day I die and the day I am raised up again alive" (Surah Maryam: 33)

Re: DR-YALAXOOW

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:52 pm
by FAH1223
did i said THAT i believe that the christian bulshit whichs jesus died in the cross????? i do nooot believe nabi ciise died in the cross. i believe 10000% what quran says whichs he did not died in the cross.

but i do not believe EITHER the other the chrsitians believe whichs not in the quran which says(((( JESUS WILL COME BACK)

FOR ME according the quran. prophet mohamed scw was the last prophet who walked on the planet. there will be no other prophet walking on this planet after maxamed scw has past away.

you will not find in the quran JESUS IS COMING BACK.
Nabi Isa is not coming back as a new prophet, he is ONLY reinforcing what he preached which was also what Nabi Muhammad (saw) preached too

Look at Shift's post where has an ayah 33 from surah Maryam c'mon man... whats in the Qur'an is also supported by the hadith

Re: DR-YALAXOOW

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:46 pm
by melo
It's funny though how Turkey is the most advanced Muslim nation, economically, military and socially. How do people explain that? They are economically, socially and military stronger than many central & eastern European countries as well
And yet turkey still cannot reach the heights of the Ottoman Islamic caliphate. The Islamic world reach its peak through Islam, and as Cumar RA said, if they try to seek honour through other means, they will in the end be humuliated. See all the Arab dictators. Turkey try so hard to be European, but keep on getting rebuffed by the EU :lol:

Re: DR-YALAXOOW

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:48 pm
by The_Patriot
It's funny though how Turkey is the most advanced Muslim nation, economically, military and socially. How do people explain that? They are economically, socially and military stronger than many central & eastern European countries as well
And yet turkey still cannot reach the heights of the Ottoman Islamic caliphate. The Islamic world reach its peak through Islam, and as Cumar RA said, if they try to seek honour through other means, they will in the end be humuliated. See all the Arab dictators. Turkey try so hard to be European, but keep on getting rebuffed by the EU :lol:
Tukey wanted to join EU but was rejected, Today if it was part of EU it would have been in crisis.

Re: DR-YALAXOOW

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:56 pm
by melo
They got lucky. Still, it shows that they were grovelling to their white overlords. The Ottomans during their peak would never do such a thing.

The debate is flawed in essence. You are forced to either side with secularism or Shabaab/Taliban. I propose that we support neither, but try to implement a just Islam that Allah SWT revealed. It might seem like a pipe dream, but it isn't like we don't have precedent. It has worked before, and Allah SWT does not send rules of governance that cannot be implemented. The defeatism prevalent amongst Muslim Youth is very sad. May Allah SWT help all of us.

Re: DR-YALAXOOW

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:42 am
by AwdalPrince
Dr Yalaxow you are wrong again!

Imam Mahdi is also mentioned in Sahih Muslim but NOT by name:

In Sahih Muslim, in the Chapter of al-Fitan, there are some interesting traditions on what will happen in the last days of the world. I would like to quote two of them here:

Abu Nadra reported: We were with the company of Jabir Ibn Abdillah... Jabir Ibn Abdillah kept quite for a while and then reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) having said: "There would be a Caliph in the last (period) of my Ummah who would freely give handfuls of wealth to the people without counting it." I said to Abu Nadra and Abu al-Ala: Do you mean Umar Ibn Abd al-Aziz? They said: NO, (he would be Imam Mahdi). Sahih Muslim, English version, v4, chapter MCCV, p1508, Tradition #6961

In another narration:

Abu Sa'id and Jabir Ibn Abdullah reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: "There would be in the last (phase) of the time a Caliph who would distribute wealth but would not count." Sahih Muslim, English version, v4, chapter MCCV, p1508, Tradition #6961

So how do we know these hadiths are about the Mahdi and NOT some random Caliph in the end of times? Easy! Because in other hadiths, he mentions his NAME and the fact that he will distribute wealth, the only difference between the narrations of Sahih Muslim is that his name is not mentioned whilst in the other Hadith, his name is mentioned specifically. Amongst the sciences of hadith is that some hadith explain others. Compare the Hadith of Sahih Muslim to this hadith:

The Prophet (SAW) said: "The Mahdi will appear in my Ummah. He will appear for a minimum of 7 or a maximum of 9 years; at that time, my Ummah will experience a bountiful favor like never before. It shall have a great abundance of food, of which it need not save anything, and the wealth at that time is in great quantities, such that if a man asks the Mahdi to give him some, and the Mahdi (AS) will say: Here! Take!" Sunan Ibn Majah, v2, Tradition #5083


In regards to the Hadith of Bukhari:

The text doesn't mention the name "Mahdi", however the prophet (SAW) said: Wa Imaamukum i.e "Your Imam". BEcause the hadiths on the MAhid are mutawaatir (has more than one narrator) then the Sahaba knew whom the Prophet (SAW) mentioned to be the Mahdi, they never asked him who was this Imam. Everyone who heard the Hadith knew the Prophet (SAW) was talking about the Mahdi. That's the first point.


Other Hadiths about the Mahdi:

he Prophet (PBUH&HF) said: "al-Mahdi is one of us, the members of the household (Ahlul-Bayt)."
Sunni reference: Sunan Ibn Majah, v2, Tradition #4085

Re: DR-YALAXOOW

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:33 pm
by Somadoon
My dear Somali brothers and sisters instead of making fun of our brother we should advice him, Islam teaches us to cover the flaws of our fellow Muslim brother/sister. I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate someone nit picking everything you say and making fun of you. Please treat others how you would like to be treated.

Re: DR-YALAXOOW

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:34 pm
by 934
Qaaxow is anything but a muslim.

And those that will come with "who are you to take someone out of Islam"? I didn't but by his attempt to paint Islam anything but what it is.

Ps...Beenale1 is also another shaddy member who's always to the rescue of anti-islamic/muslim bastards!

Re: DR-YALAXOOW

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:02 pm
by Mondey
a nigga who suggested the abrogation of some Quranic verses and calling Hadiiths "corrupted" is surely not a true believer and lacks some of the most basic concepts and fundamentals of Islam.

Re: DR-YALAXOOW

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:26 pm
by Jaidi
It's funny though how Turkey is the most advanced Muslim nation, economically, military and socially. How do people explain that? They are economically, socially and military stronger than many central & eastern European countries as well
And yet turkey still cannot reach the heights of the Ottoman Islamic caliphate. The Islamic world reach its peak through Islam, and as Cumar RA said, if they try to seek honour through other means, they will in the end be humuliated. See all the Arab dictators. Turkey try so hard to be European, but keep on getting rebuffed by the EU :lol:
Actually the current Turkish leadership is much different than their old leadership which was so intent on joining the E.U.. Erdogan has shifted his attention and sphere of influence to the Muslim world and his neighbours as opposed to focusing abroad like the opposition used to. In fact Erdogan and the AKP get critcized by the former opposition for moving towards the Muslim world and not pursuing Europe as they used to. He's also moved away from EU membership. You cant compare the AKP to its old party nor can you compare it to Arab dictators there is distinctions.

Re: DR-YALAXOOW

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:46 pm
by DR-YALAXOOW
a nigga who suggested the abrogation of some Quranic verses and calling Hadiiths "corrupted" is surely not a true believer and lacks some of the most basic concepts and fundamentals of Islam.
its not me who suggested that there are abrogated verses in the quran. what i said was according many sunni scholars even bukhaari hadiiths claime that there are abrogated verses in he quran. so called al-nāsikh wal-mansūkh
even the worst of all is they claime that Quran is incompelete agains according by hadiiths.

Read
al-nāsikh wal-mansūkh
. but as person i believe quran is 100% compelete :up: :up: :up:

Re: DR-YALAXOOW

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:58 pm
by Saraxnow
a nigga who suggested the abrogation of some Quranic verses and calling Hadiiths "corrupted" is surely not a true believer and lacks some of the most basic concepts and fundamentals of Islam.
its not me who suggested that there are abrogated verses in the quran. what i said was according many sunni scholars even bukhaari hadiiths claime that there are abrogated verses in he quran. so called al-nāsikh wal-mansūkh
even the worst of all is they claime that Quran is incompelete agains according by hadiiths.

Read
al-nāsikh wal-mansūkh
. but as person i believe quran is 100% compelete :up: :up: :up:

Warya, no Sunni Scholar believes that the Quran is incomplete, please dont lie.

Abrogation and replacement of Ayahs is true and even Allah says that He will abrogate some verses and replace them with one that is equal or complete: ''Whatever a Verse (sign) do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring a better one or similar to it. Know you not that Allâh is able to do all things?'' Al Baqarah : 106.

Re: DR-YALAXOOW

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:08 pm
by Mondey
a nigga who suggested the abrogation of some Quranic verses and calling Hadiiths "corrupted" is surely not a true believer and lacks some of the most basic concepts and fundamentals of Islam.
its not me who suggested that there are abrogated verses in the quran. what i said was according many sunni scholars even bukhaari hadiiths claime that there are abrogated verses in he quran. so called al-nāsikh wal-mansūkh
even the worst of all is they claime that Quran is incompelete agains according by hadiiths.

Read
al-nāsikh wal-mansūkh
. but as person i believe quran is 100% compelete :up: :up: :up:
i can't understand why do u insist on those weird thoughts about abrogation i already responded to that baseless claim earlier i told u no human can abrogate a verse, only God does. stop twisting scholars words don't lie and accuse them of what they didn't say or did.

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Re: DR-YALAXOOW

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:12 pm
by DR-YALAXOOW



Warya, no Sunni Scholar believes that the Quran is incomplete, please dont lie.

Abrogation and replacement of Ayahs is true and even Allah says that He will abrogate some verses and replace them with one that is equal or complete: ''Whatever a Verse (sign) do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring a better one or similar to it. Know you not that Allâh is able to do all things?'' Al Baqarah : 106.
what about alleged stoning verse in the quran? listen sh umul tafsiir on suuratul noor. and hear about this verses whichs not in the quran he says omar bin khadaab hear it and said this is was quran. but this verse never made in the quran.
and according .(Sunan Ibn Majah. – Hadith No.1944
Narrated by Ayesha (R) When the verse enjoining stoning for adultery and Nursing of a baby 10 times were revealed. It was written on a leaf, and placed under the bed; but the leaf was accidentally eaten by a Female Sheep (or a goat) while the Prophet Muhummed (S) was on his death-bed. [and thus the verse was lost – )