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Somali Arabic Loan words. List them.

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Somali Arabic Loan words. List them.

Postby MidriGeez » Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:17 am

I have Heard Somali Speak Millions of times and there is always An arabic word used here or there among their sentence, It sound more funny Though because somali say it with a swagger. List them If you know Arabic words used in somali. The words Must be originally arabic and part of the somali Vocabulary which means if the word has an alternative in somali Don't list it.

One word I hear all the time is lakin hehehehe makes me giggle when i hear it because somali seems to drag the word alot LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKIIIIIIIIIIIN when they are going 100MPH speaking somali LOL.


Friday= Jumaa???
Means= Yaéni????

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Re: Somali Arabic Loan words. List them.

Postby Cumar-Labasuul » Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:47 am

raysal wasaare - prime minister
maxkamad - court
milix - salt
dawlad - government
madfac - cannon
ixtiraam - respect


and hundreds more that I can't think of at the moment :)

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Re: Somali Arabic Loan words. List them.

Postby Twist » Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:48 am

Not only Friday but all the seven days of the week are of Arabic origin.

These are some that I can remember now:

Magazine = majalad
Pen/pencil = qalin
Grave = qabri
Arrogance = kibir
World = adduun
Doomsday = aakhiro
Air = hawo
Library = maktabad
Museum = matxaf
Horse = faras
Happiness = farxad
Plate = saxan
Utensils = maacuun
Banana = moos
Apple = tufaax
Grapes = canab
Book = kitaab (or buug, which is the English origin)
Wood = loox, alwaax
Salt = milix (there's also cusbo which I think is just Somali word)
Miracle = mucjiso
Storm = duufaan
Cholera = daacuun (duufaan reminded me of this :lol:)
Prostitute = sharmuuto (also there's dh!llo, a Somali origin, I guess)
Soup = maraq
Onion = basal
Ship = markab
Hell = naar, cadaab
Paradise = janno
Math = xisaab
Reason = caqli
Animal = xayawaan
Light (as in weight) = khafiif
Light = nuur
Body = mayd
Knowledge = cilmi
Ignorance = jahli
Order = nidaam
Constitution = dastuur
Law = qaanuun
Dinner = casho
Lunch = qado
Tea = shaah
Forbidden/prohibited = xaaraan
Faith = iimaan
Shame = ceeb

And many, many more. Most of them have either the exact pronunciation or slightly different.

PS: Most of those words came to us through the religion.

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Re: Somali Arabic Loan words. List them.

Postby mcali » Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:57 am

sxb most of the words you listed I know the real somali word to go with it. Somalis dont really have to use arabic. It's not like if we take arabic out of our convorsation that we wont have anything to talk about. It's just that arabic gives us more choices to use in speech. It's like I can call someone maan gaab but then I can switch it up and say caqli gaab. Imagine English without latin or greek origin words. I promise you then we would have nothing to say to each other.

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Re: Somali Arabic Loan words. List them.

Postby TheLoFather » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:03 am

except for the days of the week and some qur'anic words you can find a somali equivelent for all other arabic words that are used in somali (somalised words)

say any such a word and am sure someone in snet will find their somali equivilent!
Means= Yaéni????
means= ay tahey (somali)

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Re: Somali Arabic Loan words. List them.

Postby waryaa » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:09 am

99.9 somali names are or originate from Arabic names.

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Re: Somali Arabic Loan words. List them.

Postby mcali » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:13 am

except for the days of the week and some qur'anic words you can find a somali equivelent for all other arabic words that are used in somali (somalised words)

say any such a word and am sure someone in snet will find their somali equivilent!
exactly what I'm saying. I notice a lot of somalis tend to be distraught when they learn that a word they thought was purely somali turns out to be arabic.
also it's not just arabic but roti or bread is a hindi or urdu word. or gadhi which is also most likely an urdu word. or even babuur which we believe means car but in af xabashi means train. And herar where the use the word bila which we all understand as without. Most words cant be proven to have come from them or us. Only reason we dont have proof is because our language was not written until recently

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Re: Somali Arabic Loan words. List them.

Postby MidriGeez » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:34 am

raysal wasaare - prime minister
maxkamad - court
milix - salt
dawlad - government
madfac - cannon
ixtiraam - respect


and hundreds more that I can't think of at the moment :)

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Re: Somali Arabic Loan words. List them.

Postby MidriGeez » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:40 am

Not only Friday but all the seven days of the week are of Arabic origin.

These are some that I can remember now:

Magazine = majalad
Pen/pencil = qalin
Grave = qabri
Arrogance = kibir
World = adduun
Doomsday = aakhiro
Air = hawo
Library = maktabad
Museum = matxaf
Horse = faras
Happiness = farxad
Plate = saxan
Utensils = maacuun
Banana = moos
Apple = tufaax
Grapes = canab
Book = kitaab (or buug, which is the English origin)
Wood = loox, alwaax
Salt = milix (there's also cusbo which I think is just Somali word)
Miracle = mucjiso
Storm = duufaan
Cholera = daacuun (duufaan reminded me of this :lol:)
Prostitute = sharmuuto (also there's dh!llo, a Somali origin, I guess)
Soup = maraq
Onion = basal
Ship = markab
Hell = naar, cadaab
Paradise = janno
Math = xisaab
Reason = caqli
Animal = xayawaan
Light (as in weight) = khafiif
Light = nuur
Body = mayd
Knowledge = cilmi
Ignorance = jahli
Order = nidaam
Constitution = dastuur
Law = qaanuun
Dinner = casho
Lunch = qado
Tea = shaah
Forbidden/prohibited = xaaraan
Faith = iimaan
Shame = ceeb

And many, many more. Most of them have either the exact pronunciation or slightly different.

PS: Most of those words came to us through the religion.
Alot of those words are In eritrean language too. Wow That is alot of words.

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Re: Somali Arabic Loan words. List them.

Postby MidriGeez » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:41 am

99.9 somali names are or originate from Arabic names.

Yeah Because of islam...same In eritrea too.

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Re: Somali Arabic Loan words. List them.

Postby MidriGeez » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:51 am

sxb most of the words you listed I know the real somali word to go with it. Somalis dont really have to use arabic. It's not like if we take arabic out of our convorsation that we wont have anything to talk about. It's just that arabic gives us more choices to use in speech. It's like I can call someone maan gaab but then I can switch it up and say caqli gaab. Imagine English without latin or greek origin words. I promise you then we would have nothing to say to each other.

You have to use arabic to expand your langauge..I mean not exactly arabic but any language which has more Capacity to grow, semitic languages have the best setup for expansion of a language because of its base, arabic loaned 50% of its language from other languages and now its one of the biggest languages in the world, Tigrigna is the only semitic language with a semitic Vocabulary but a kushtic grammer, Because the Creators of Tigrigna belew beja spoke a kushtic langauge and also arabic as second language, so when they spoke Geez they created Tigrigna with an arabic prononciation but beja grammer remained. you need your langauge to evolve for your culture to excell, if you don't adopt other words you will be left behind, else how you going to decribe new words like internet, radio television etc. Eritrean Tigrigna and Tigre is beyond a joke now you can say a word by using 3-4 different words and it means the same thing, to the point that some don't know which word is the original anymore.lol

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Re: Somali Arabic Loan words. List them.

Postby MidriGeez » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:04 am

except for the days of the week and some qur'anic words you can find a somali equivelent for all other arabic words that are used in somali (somalised words)

say any such a word and am sure someone in snet will find their somali equivilent!
exactly what I'm saying. I notice a lot of somalis tend to be distraught when they learn that a word they thought was purely somali turns out to be arabic.
also it's not just arabic but roti or bread is a hindi or urdu word. or gadhi which is also most likely an urdu word. or even babuur which we believe means car but in af xabashi means train. And herar where the use the word bila which we all understand as without. Most words cant be proven to have come from them or us. Only reason we dont have proof is because our language was not written until recently

did you ever thought a word was somali then found out it was arabic??? Baboor means Train indeed In tigrigna and Tigre. You can easily tell if a word is of arabic origin or not, i am fluent in arabic. There is 2 ways one it's called the three base rule meaning 3 letters of arabic origin, this is how you know if the word is purely arabic or arabs adopted it sometime in the last 2000 years. Example "Helm" means to dream 3 base letters Ha la ma three base letters.the other easier way is if you are a muslim then the koran is another way. Since the koran gave arabic the grammer and alot of the vocabulary as it came in arabic if you find a word there then its arabic. That's way when the Non muslims try to pick on the grammer of the koran to debate about a mistake and compare to todays arabic people laugh at them. Because its the today arabic that's no good Not the Koran.lol

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Re: Somali Arabic Loan words. List them.

Postby LiquidHYDROGEN » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:19 am

70%+ of the somali language is arabic. You couldn't possibly list them in one go.

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Re: Somali Arabic Loan words. List them.

Postby mcali » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:07 am

For those of you who insist somali has 70 percent to 90 percent arabic loan words try to find a arabic word in this poem besides diin and aadan wich are islamic terms.
Eebbow geyiga oo dhan waa nalaga guulaaye
Waa noo gedleeyaan dadkii gaalada ahaaye
Eebbow Giriig kolay ku tahay nala gamuunneeye!
Go'na lagama qaadine dulmay nagu gelaayaane
Gabbaad kale hadday noo helaan waa gam'i lahayne
Eebbow waxay nagu gabreen diinta soo gala e!
Eebbow garka haddaan qabsaday gaaxshe nabaddiiye
Eebbow gammaan iyo waxaan gini-cas dhiibaayey
Eebbow garow kagama helin goolashadaan wadaye!
Ganbalaaligii bay warmaha nagu garraaxeene
Eebow waa gumaadeen raggii gaanaha ahaaye
Eebbow waxay gebawareen Gaaguf iyo Xayde!
Xirsigii garaaraha lahaa Gaarrufkii dile e
Geydhaale Aw-Aadan bay galawga taabteene
Eebow geesigii Ina-Dherey ugu guduudsheene
Guxushaaga Baynaxa ilmadu waa tan gabaxlayne
Gorroska Muuse-taaganaa wadnuhu ila gariiraaye
Eebbow ways gamaamaa markuu gaarka soo maro e

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Re: Somali Arabic Loan words. List them.

Postby mcali » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:07 am

Those who knew the somali spoken deep in the miyi or baadiye didn't mix arabic and somali at least the ones who knew both languages like my grandfather. He AUN didnt like mixing two languages together. A lot of us who believe that somali is mainly arabic dont know enough somali to back up their claim. Somali is a much deeper language and is not limited to the words you are used to hearing. In boorama they had this somali dhaqan class and the teacher gave everyone a vocab quiz. It was a hundered question and I got a 13 percent. I didn't feel bad since reading somali was hard for me back then but niggas who were born and bread in somali countries where getting 20 and 30 percent. The highest score was 50 out of the high school kids. The highest grade from the adults was 83. Somali is a vast and beautiful language and is slowly being lost.


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