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Sharks in Somalia. How Bad is it?

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:07 am
by dagameison
I always wanted to know are the beaches in somalia safe to swim in because i never see people swimming, i see ppl swim in puddles or small rivers, if you been to somalia and swimed at the beach be honest because from reports I read its crazy idea.
Shark attack in Somalia claims the life of a newlywed soldier from Houston

SAT 10/09/1993 HOUSTON CHRONICLE, Section A, Page 22, 2 STAR Edition

Starla Nicholson's wedding dress was barely packed away before she had to decide what to wear to her husband's funeral.

Her husband, Army Spec. Edward J. Nicholson of Houston, died Wednesday from injuries received in a shark attack in Somalia. He was 21.

Nicholson died two months to the day after being married.

"I'm having my bad times and good times, but I'm trying to get through it," his 23-year-old widow said in an interview at her parents' in Nashville, Tenn.

She said she harbors no bitter feelings about American involvement in Somalia. "I just hope that they bring everybody home before somebody else has to go through what I've been through," she said.

Nicholson, a 1991 graduate of Cy-Fair High School in northwest Harris County, was a helicopter mechanic stationed at Fort Campbell, Ky. In February, he met Starla during a visit to Nashville. They began dating and were married Aug. 6. He shipped out for Somalia on Aug. 29.

"He called twice while over there. He didn't talk about the conditions but did say there was a lot of action," she said.

Last weekend, he apparently was with a group of soldiers filling sandbags when they decided to take a swim in the Indian Ocean where he was attacked, the Army said.

Nicholson was taken to a medical center in Mogadishu, then airlifted to a hospital in Germany. He later was transferred to Walter Reed Hospital, where he died.

His wife was flown to Germany and remained by her husband's side until his death.

"He loved working on helicopters and being in the military," she said. "He really didn't want to go (to Somalia)," she said. "He went over there to do his duty and to come back home."

And

Surfing the shark-infested waves off Somalia's capital of Mogadishu is a run with death in what is already one of the most dangerous places on Earth.

The sandy white beaches off the city, where hundreds have died in clashes between U.N. troops and clan militias, are patrolled by one of the five most vicious species of sharks.The Zambezi River shark, or Carcarinus Zambenzensis by its scientific name, is a 6 1/2-foot, 390-pound blood-crazed killer that will attack anything that moves with its razor-sharp teeth.

These scavengers, drawn up the east coast of Africa by the stink of camel intestines dumped in the sea by city butchers, are probably as unpredictable and dangerous as the Great White shark of "Jaws" fame, fishermen say.

"You must be joking," says a South African, who works at Mogadishu's U.N.-controled airport runway that hugs the rocky coastline, when asked if he has tested the waves.

Gazing longingly out at the rollers foaming in across an azure sea, the native of Africa's surfing capital Durban adds: "You'd be out of your mind if you even put your big toe in the water."

Life on the beach was not always like this in "The Mog," as Somalia's war-torn capital is known to thousands of United Nations peacekeepers.

Soon after thousands of American-led troops hit Mogadishu's coast at the start of Operation Restore Hope to end famine and lawlessness last December, U.S. soldiers found a little chunk of California on the edge of Africa.

The beach where the first American troops landed next to the airport was renamed Arroyo Beach after a U.S. Marine killed in a firefight with Somali gunmen.

In those days, U.S. Marines sat tanning on the porch of a beach hut made from plywood freight cases listening to rock music on their portable stereos.

Lifeguards with white zinc sunblock on their noses sat watchfully in their high chairs, distracted only by passing female soldiers in bikinis with their M-16 rifles slung over their shoulders.

Inflated truck tire inner tubes or bits of plank served as surfboards for the swimmers.

During those few months of relaxation before the storm of violence that hit Mogadishu, soldiers would sit about in the sand, telling stories and trading bits of their uniforms for smuggled alcohol or other items of barter.

Then in May, a French diplomat's secretary was savaged in the waves off Arroyo Beach and she later died of shock.

Arroyo was deserted and a shark warning sign was erected. Weeks later, 24 Pakistani U.N. soldiers were gunned down by Somali militias in Mogadishu and the capital spiraled into a guerrilla war that confined peacekeepers to base.

Over the next four months, only the hardy visited Arroyo beach and took a swim in the waves - perhaps tired of the heat, the incoming mortar bombs and the carnage of the U.N.'s fruitless search for the warlord Mohamed Aidid.

Last month, a Russian from one of the teams that runs civilian transport helicopters for the United Nations, was standing waist-deep in the waves at Arroyo when a shark bit him.
In addition to his wife, a resident of Nashville, Nicholson is survived by his parents, John and Khanh Nicholson; brother, Khoi; and grandmother Nguyen Thi Quy.

He'll be buried today in the National Cemetery in Madison, Tenn.

Re: Sharks in Somalia. How Bad is it?

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:21 am
by Monk-of-Mogadishu
Fuck swimmers, lets pray for more sharks. Somali fishermen make a lot of money selling shark fins to China. In fact sharks are the fish species that provide the #1 source of income for Somali fishermen, and they are the most hunted. Lets pray for more.

Re: Sharks in Somalia. How Bad is it?

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:26 am
by dagameison
Fuck swimmers, lets pray for more sharks. Somali fishermen make a lot of money selling shark fins to China. In fact sharks are the fish species that provide the #1 source of income for Somali fishermen, and they are the most hunted. Lets pray for more.
I just want to know if anyone has actually swimmed in somalia beaches and how bad is this shark attack issue? its not good news if u cant stand waist deep in the water and getting attacked. Plus note I've rarely seen people swim at the beach so that must say the locals know to stay away too.

Re: Sharks in Somalia. How Bad is it?

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:35 am
by Monk-of-Mogadishu
1. There's a lot of damn sharks off Somalia's coast, likely even the highest population in the world.
2. Sharks like to eat people.

WTF, do the math. I can't make it more simple for you man. :|

Also, people in Xamar tend to swim a lot at the beach. People in Puntland tend to stay away from the beach, perhaps because of a larger shark population or likely because they have a lot of oases/natural springs to swim in. My grandmother used to swim in Eyl, she never went to the ocean because Eyl has a large natural pool that separates the freshwater valley from the ocean, so its like a small slice of the ocean next to their town, sharks can't enter but sometimes people used to get pulled towards ocean and they would fall through small crevices into the open water where the sharks roam.

Re: Sharks in Somalia. How Bad is it?

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:45 am
by dagameison
1. There's a lot of damn sharks off Somalia's coast, likely even the highest population in the world.
2. Sharks like to eat people.

WTF, do the math. I can't make it more simple for you man. :|

Also, people in Xamar tend to swim a lot at the beach. People in Puntland tend to stay away from the beach, perhaps because of a larger shark population or likely because they have a lot of oases/natural springs to swim in. My grandmother used to swim in Eyl, she never went to the ocean because Eyl has a large natural pool that separates the freshwater valley from the ocean, so its like a small slice of the ocean next to their town, sharks can't enter but sometimes people used to get pulled towards ocean and they would fall through small crevices into the open water where the sharks roam.
I went to mogadishu in 2000s and went to lido beach and was planning on going for a swim I was only a kid didn't know any better, but then I decided against it because the beach literally smelled of urine people piss in there so I said no thanks to one of my friends he decided to go and swim in the rock pools i just watched. I hope puntland beaches are not like that.

Monk i am aware theres alot of sharks in somalia but i just wanted to know if anyone has braved it and thanks for your grandmother story, do you know of any shark attacks stories or close calls. I just find sharks a fascinating creature.

Re: Sharks in Somalia. How Bad is it?

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:46 am
by AbdiWahab252
Its not as bad else where. You can go swimming further up the coast with no problems.

The number of shark attacks is down drastically as the city became depopulated.


Monk,

Shark is the only prize fish that can be caught and processed by Somali fishermen.

Re: Sharks in Somalia. How Bad is it?

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:52 am
by Monk-of-Mogadishu
Monk i am aware theres alot of sharks in somalia but i just wanted to know if anyone has braved it and thanks for your grandmother story, do you know of any shark attacks stories or close calls. I just find sharks a fascinating creature.
Yes, my grandmother says people used to get eaten by sharks a lot in Eyl, it was a big fear. Mostly young dumb guys used to go to the ocean to act tough, and the sharks would eat them up. Most people were not that dumb and they stayed within the safe zone inland from the ocean.

Re: Sharks in Somalia. How Bad is it?

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:17 am
by abgaalKING
Sharks are lucrative commodity.i know this company called "Olaad company waberi group" who owns many supermarkets in mogadishu.they used to export sharks,lobster to dubai and import many edible stuff like caanaha coast and niido,chicken cube and many different things.

Re: Sharks in Somalia. How Bad is it?

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:09 am
by Murax
I was gonna answer but then I read the article and the article answered it. In the '80s the Mogadishu Governer would have the remains of camels, goats etc. thrown into the Sea and this would attract sharks.



As for the best beaches in Somalia, I'm sure all the beaches in major towns are horrible and dirty i.e Bossaso, Kismaayo, Xamar, Marka, Baraawe. The best beaches are probably places like Raskambooni, Caluula, Badhaade, Harardheere, Hobyo these kind of tuulo places where there isn't a lot of trash. Waste management doesn't exist in Somalia and I'm sure loitering is rampant on its beaches.

Re: Sharks in Somalia. How Bad is it?

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:14 pm
by dagameison
I was gonna answer but then I read the article and the article answered it. In the '80s the Mogadishu Governer would have the remains of camels, goats etc. thrown into the Sea and this would attract sharks.

As for the best beaches in Somalia, I'm sure all the beaches in major towns are horrible and dirty i.e Bossaso, Kismaayo, Xamar, Marka, Baraawe. The best beaches are probably places like Raskambooni, Caluula, Badhaade, Harardheere, Hobyo these kind of tuulo places where there isn't a lot of trash. Waste management doesn't exist in Somalia and I'm sure loitering is rampant on its beaches.
ive seen kids swim at beaches in bosaso close to shore
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But then again I wouldnt wanna swim here which is closer to the port
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But this is just raaxo imaging going there like once a week for spring bath. That stuff is healthy
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I am assuming its not as dangerous in Bosaso cuz of shark fishing and they have been depopulated but its not 100% clean either then again ive seen ppl swimming at liddo. Funny thing is most of the ppl who swim are always bantus and not somalis

Re: Sharks in Somalia. How Bad is it?

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:34 pm
by AhmedBoqor
I don't think there has been any cases of shark attacks in Bosaaso as far as I know, for the most part the waters were safe to swim in and we used to go outskirts of the city in the east, then again sharks largely accommodate the deep oceans and not the regular seas so we can imagine the long eastern coast of Somalia to be by default worse then what we have up north.

Re: Sharks in Somalia. How Bad is it?

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:10 pm
by tightrope
PUNTLAND IS BLESSED WITH MARINE RESOURCES.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT NO ONE WANTS TO DO BUSINESS IN PUNTLAND BECAUSE IT IS PART OF THE FAILED STATE OF ZOOMALIA.
IT'S TIME TO BREAKAWAY FROM SOUTHIELAND AKA ZOOMALIA!
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Re: Sharks in Somalia. How Bad is it?

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:24 pm
by dagameison
PUNTLAND IS BLESSED WITH MARINE RESOURCES.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT NO ONE WANTS TO DO BUSINESS IN PUNTLAND BECAUSE IT IS PART OF THE FAILED STATE OF ZOOMALIA.
IT'S TIME TO BREAKAWAY FROM SOUTHIELAND AKA ZOOMALIA!
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You always call for breaking away as if thats going to make the situation all better. Breaking away from Somalia doesnt bring any benefits or every country would be doing business in somaliland. And breaking away we have alot more to lose in wealth then any clan in somalia. Where do u think pland wealth went into from 1960 till 1991? thats 40 years its not funny matter at all. Plus wat about kismaayo? A strong Jubbaland in the south and Strong Puntland in the North is a better route to squeeze out hamar from the whole debate!!!

Re: Sharks in Somalia. How Bad is it?

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:02 pm
by accident
PUNTLAND IS BLESSED WITH MARINE RESOURCES.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT NO ONE WANTS TO DO BUSINESS IN PUNTLAND BECAUSE IT IS PART OF THE FAILED STATE OF ZOOMALIA.
IT'S TIME TO BREAKAWAY FROM SOUTHIELAND AKA ZOOMALIA!
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You always call for breaking away as if thats going to make the situation all better. Breaking away from Somalia doesnt bring any benefits or every country would be doing business in somaliland. And breaking away we have alot more to lose in wealth then any clan in somalia. Where do u think pland wealth went into from 1960 till 1991? thats 40 years its not funny matter at all. Plus wat about kismaayo? A strong Jubbaland in the south and Strong Puntland in the North is a better route to squeeze out hamar from the whole debate!!!
Careful, you might never get accepted into the secret PPG. :lol: