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The killer disease

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Re: The killer disease

Postby Lamagoodle » Sat Jul 04, 2015 10:06 am

You are beating the bush on an issue that you hardly know! If you don't know by treatment/therapy, then what can I say? Treatment/therapy is the lingo of medicine.

The aricle mentions 160 000/12 weeks of treatment using the cocktail. That is not enough and the patient will not be free from the virus. A conservative estimate ranges from 500 000 -1 million dollars. But, as I wrote earlier that is bound to be less as new generic drugs are developed .

whatever man, i'm just saying you fudged the initial estimate by a like 350k-850k (maybe i'm being pedantic but i take the reporting of research seriously).

fyi a generic substitute is already on the indian market.

also what makes you an authority then? don't be so quick to dismiss, for all you know i'm a doktah :stylin:

:lol: I know that you are not a doctor - at least one trained in the west- because you did not know the word therapy. And you did not understand the nature of treating viruses

I know that generic/synthetic drugs are on the market (if you read what I wrote above, you'd have noticed that). But the cost of therapy is still very high.

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Re: The killer disease

Postby Fey » Sat Jul 04, 2015 10:22 am

:lol: I know that you are not a doctor - at least one trained in the west- because you did not know the word therapy. And you did not understand the nature of treating viruses

I know that generic/synthetic drugs are on the market (if you read what I wrote above, you'd have noticed that). But the cost of therapy is still very high.
but you don't though? *twilight zone theme song*

look your article didn't support the figure you provided and i never said i was unclear about the meaning of therapy. btw the 'therapy' and 'treatment' aren't medical lingo, a lay person knows what they mean... lilliputian and paroxysmal supraventricular tachycardia are :stylin:

this has been sufficiently petty. i blame myself really. continue your good work, sir.

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Re: The killer disease

Postby PrinceDaadi » Sat Jul 04, 2015 10:31 am

The only problem I had with vaccination is the time, after they give the first two injections they will tell you to come back after six month so I missed the third one and was told to start it again.
Actually for most Hep Viruses , you only need one shot/life time.

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The vaccination schedule most often used for adults and children has been three intramuscular injections, the second and third administered 1 and 6 months after the first. Recombivax HB® has been approved as a two dose schedule for aged 11-15 years. Twinrix® has also been approved as a four dose accelerated schedule.

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Re: The killer disease

Postby Lamagoodle » Sat Jul 04, 2015 10:46 am

The only problem I had with vaccination is the time, after they give the first two injections they will tell you to come back after six month so I missed the third one and was told to start it again.
Actually for most Hep Viruses , you only need one shot/life time.

Vaccine Information
The vaccination schedule most often used for adults and children has been three intramuscular injections, the second and third administered 1 and 6 months after the first. Recombivax HB® has been approved as a two dose schedule for aged 11-15 years. Twinrix® has also been approved as a four dose accelerated schedule.
That is from the CDC right? I am assuming it is HV (B) and in that case, you are right. The latest reccommendation is 3 to 4 shots for full effect DEPENDING ON SEVERAL FACTORS e.g. age.. They are other Hep Viruses; until recently ( from 1982 when the WHO reccommended vaccination, only one shot was needed for Hep B saaxib.).

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Re: The killer disease

Postby LeJusticier » Sat Jul 04, 2015 2:46 pm

Its a bitch of a disease esp. here in Somalia. There are high rates of infection. Don't get married without a comprehensive STI and Hepatitis testing.
I have heard people started testing. In one case girl went to Hargeisa for holiday and met handsome boy. They agreed to get married. The girl proposed HIV test done before marriage. The boy agreed, however, every time the boy cames excuses for not showing up for test. The girl was bit furious and began a secret investigation. She cancelled the wedding without clear explanation and made both parents furious and disappointed.....She was back to UK.....3 years later she revealed to close friends why the boy didn't want the test......because he has HIV......



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As long Somalis still drinking from dirty water wells this problem will stay!

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Re: The killer disease

Postby mahoka » Sat Jul 04, 2015 3:19 pm

Its a bitch of a disease esp. here in Somalia. There are high rates of infection. Don't get married without a comprehensive STI and Hepatitis testing.
I have heard people started testing. In one case girl went to Hargeisa for holiday and met handsome boy. They agreed to get married. The girl proposed HIV test done before marriage. The boy agreed, however, every time the boy cames excuses for not showing up for test. The girl was bit furious and began a secret investigation. She cancelled the wedding without clear explanation and made both parents furious and disappointed.....She was back to UK.....3 years later she revealed to close friends why the boy didn't want the test......because he has HIV......



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As long Somalis still drinking from dirty water wells this problem will stay!
wow is that a true story, i was in hargeisa volunteering for an NGO and one day we gave out i think money to HIV sufferers in hargeisa

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Re: The killer disease

Postby LeJusticier » Sat Jul 04, 2015 3:24 pm

Its a bitch of a disease esp. here in Somalia. There are high rates of infection. Don't get married without a comprehensive STI and Hepatitis testing.
I have heard people started testing. In one case girl went to Hargeisa for holiday and met handsome boy. They agreed to get married. The girl proposed HIV test done before marriage. The boy agreed, however, every time the boy cames excuses for not showing up for test. The girl was bit furious and began a secret investigation. She cancelled the wedding without clear explanation and made both parents furious and disappointed.....She was back to UK.....3 years later she revealed to close friends why the boy didn't want the test......because he has HIV......



Lama

As long Somalis still drinking from dirty water wells this problem will stay!
wow is that a true story, i was in hargeisa volunteering for an NGO and one day we gave out i think money to HIV sufferers in hargeisa
Yes true story. She is back to London graduated from university but I have noticed how cynical she'd become after that trip.

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Re: The killer disease

Postby Bro » Sat Jul 04, 2015 3:59 pm

I'm surprised only one person mentioned the culprit behind the mass transmissions. Nonetheless, contaminated wells, and dirty water supplies cause more hep transmission than its formal sexual transmission. Prevention is the key to eliminating any disease. Clean water supplies should be top of the list priority, otherwise this preventable disease will continue to wipe out those with pre-existing immune weakened conditions, children and infants.

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Re: The killer disease

Postby LeJusticier » Sat Jul 04, 2015 4:54 pm

I have heard in our cases hepatitis main culprit is caused the contaminated drinking water.

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Re: The killer disease

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:39 pm

LeJusticier,

Hep A is passed through poor sanitation but Hep B is through intercourse and blood

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Re: The killer disease

Postby LeJusticier » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:57 pm

LeJusticier,

Hep A is passed through poor sanitation but Hep B is through intercourse and blood
Are you saying Somali suffer hepatitis A than B or both?

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Re: The killer disease

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:05 pm

Both, A is endemic and can be cured on its own. B is a deadlier and destroys the liver permanently.,

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Re: The killer disease

Postby LeJusticier » Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:15 pm

Both, A is endemic and can be cured on its own. B is a deadlier and destroys the liver permanently.,

Thanks

All I know many acquaintances died of liver cancer after not knowingly they suffer for many years with hepatitis

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Re: The killer disease

Postby Lamagoodle » Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:50 pm

LJ, Armaan,
Hep A, as Abdiwahab said, is not that serious. It is like a cold. Hep B (Cagaarshow) can cause both acute and chronic infections (this is the major killer). Since the onset of HIV cocktail drugs, one can live with it. It is caused by infectious blood, body fluids and mother-to-child.

There is a vaccine for HBV.

The killer is Hep C which is mainly transmitted through poorly sterilized medical equipment (in the somali case) , blood transfusions , drug. The problem is that this virus persists in more than 80% of the cases; and there is no vaccine against it. This is what kills many somalis, . This is not Cagaarshow (Jaundice), btw. Most ppl will develop liver cirrhosis and(or liver cancer.

The good news is that there are drugs on the market now (this is why I dug the thread) but there are very expensive; outside the budgetary scope of many public healthcare providers in the west. We are talking of hundreds of throusands of dollars. ANother problem is that this is not one -off treatement; it is could be life long treatment (therapy) and the costs are high. Fortunately, there are some generic drugs and soon the price will drop.

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Re: The killer disease

Postby LeJusticier » Sat Jul 04, 2015 11:17 pm

LJ, Armaan,
Hep A, as Abdiwahab said, is not that serious. It is like a cold. Hep B (Cagaarshow) can cause both acute and chronic infections (this is the major killer). Since the onset of HIV cocktail drugs, one can live with it. It is caused by infectious blood, body fluids and mother-to-child.

There is a vaccine for HBV.

The killer is Hep C which is mainly transmitted through poorly sterilized medical equipment (in the somali case) , blood transfusions , drug. The problem is that this virus persists in more than 80% of the cases; and there is no vaccine against it. This is what kills many somalis, . This is not Cagaarshow (Jaundice), btw. Most ppl will develop liver cirrhosis and(or liver cancer.

The good news is that there are drugs on the market now (this is why I dug the thread) but there are very expensive; outside the budgetary scope of many public healthcare providers in the west. We are talking of hundreds of throusands of dollars. ANother problem is that this is not one -off treatement; it is could be life long treatment (therapy) and the costs are high. Fortunately, there are some generic drugs and soon the price will drop.
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