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Which is worse?

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Re: Which is worse?

Postby greenday » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:15 pm

Do you know that when you go to hajj you cant enter with only one sin, which is murder. you cant take it in to be forgiven.

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Re: Which is worse?

Postby Cinque Mtume » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:19 pm

Do you know that when you go to hajj you cant enter with only one sin, which is murder. you cant take it in to be forgiven.
I didn't know that. All I knew was that you're not allowed to go to Hajj while you still owe money to people.

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Re: Which is worse?

Postby greenday » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:25 pm

Do you know that when you go to hajj you cant enter with only one sin, which is murder. you cant take it in to be forgiven.
I didn't know that. All I knew was that you're not allowed to go to Hajj while you still owe money to people.
It doesn't mean you cant go it means that there is no chance that the sin will be forgiven, you enter without this sin i heard and that as soon as you leave waa laguso celinaa.

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Re: Which is worse?

Postby Cinque Mtume » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:28 pm

I see. That makes sense now I think about it. I guess a sin like murder is left for the judgement of Allah in akhiro.

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Re: Which is worse?

Postby union » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:31 pm

Shirk.

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Re: Which is worse?

Postby Beenaale_No1 » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:32 pm

Do you know that when you go to hajj you cant enter with only one sin, which is murder. you cant take it in to be forgiven.
I didn't know that. All I knew was that you're not allowed to go to Hajj while you still owe money to people.
It doesn't mean you cant go it means that there is no chance that the sin will be forgiven, you enter without this sin i heard and that as soon as you leave waa laguso celinaa.
Arinta hadey sidas tahay, look at the thousands of Muslims who have been killed by fellow Muslims in conflicts in North Africa + Middle East in recent months. Kuwan aakhira xagey tegaayaan.

Some people just find murder so easy to commit. :|

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Re: Which is worse?

Postby Cinque Mtume » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:34 pm


Arinta hadey sidas tahay, look at the thousands of Muslims who have been killed by fellow Muslims in conflicts in North Africa + Middle East in recent months. Kuwan aakhira xagey tegaayaan.
Only Allah knows.

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Re: Which is worse?

Postby greenday » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:34 pm

Beenaale that's why just being Muslim doesn't mean you end up in Janna.

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Re: Which is worse?

Postby Nabeela » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:35 pm

I heard if you kill once, it's easier for you to do it the 2nd, 3rd time, and forth.

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Re: Which is worse?

Postby NoAngst » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:39 pm

What is a murderer doing at Hajj in the first place? Shouldn't he/she be in prison?

Call me old fashioned but I prefer criminals put of out commission, rotting in decripit prison cell where they can rue lost liberties and suffer the indignities of dehumanizing prison life.

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Re: Which is worse?

Postby Cinque Mtume » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:42 pm

Beenaale that's why just being Muslim doesn't mean you end up in Janna.
greenday, I think you misunderstood. Murder cannot be forgiven by mere Hajj or other good acts. But it can be forgiven and you could still go to Jano even if you've killed 40 people.

Otherwise you might as well live a hedonistic lifestyle after committing a murder. You're going to burn in hell anyway.

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Re: Which is worse?

Postby Maandhow » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:45 pm

I am really suprised how people attempting to respond certain question.
dont try to answer it if you are not qualified scholar, which sins are forgiveable and which sins are not forgiveable depends on the circumstance
you may kill someone while your asleep in this case your innocent :mrgreen:. However, certain question you need to have expert knowledge in that field to go into details before you say this is haram and shirk :evil:

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Re: Which is worse?

Postby greenday » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:48 pm

Beenaale that's why just being Muslim doesn't mean you end up in Janna.
greenday, I think you misunderstood. Murder cannot be forgiven by mere Hajj or other good acts. But it can be forgiven and you could still go to Jano even if you've killed 40 people.

Otherwise you might as well live a hedonistic lifestyle after committing a murder. You're going to burn in hell anyway.

I was just being general here about committing sins and being a Muslim. Am not sure about who can forgive you for murder since the person is dead :? Or if you get killed it cancels out, but it gets even more confusing because all life belongs to Allah so maybe you don't need the forgiveness of the individual and Allah can just forgive you on his own :? Ani moogi runta hada iska sheego.

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Re: Which is worse?

Postby NoAngst » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:49 pm

Maandheey,

Actually it is entirely upto Allah which sins are forgiveable and which aren't. You can be the most squeaky clean Muslim in the world and Allah can still condemn you to eternal hellfire. That's the privilege of being Allah. Allah can do whatever He wants.

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Re: Which is worse?

Postby SultanOrder » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:51 pm

:lol:


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