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Nonsense I have yet to see any asian that will let his daughter marry such filth. I mean for god sakes these people are probably bastard born (they dont know their fathers names) and they still give their daughters away to them. No fckin' pride whatsoever.

Let me get this straight: because you haven't yet seen an Asian marry outside their ethnic group, it doesn't happen. War baruurta iska ilaali.

I live in the UK. For every 1 british person you see 100 asians, and I have yet to see an asian who's disgraced herself by marrying an ajnabi. But then again that might be because they're all dead due to honour-killings.

Wow, you guys make Somali women look very bad, Somali women are not desperate women to marry just anyone where I live.Also, not all converts are bad people, I mean what about Somalis how religious are they? You have Somalis who are druggies, alcoholics, qat addicts, commit benefit fraud etc so who are we to judge other people. Sure there are converts who are bad but they will be judged by Allah and if a Somali girl decided to marry a loser than she will have to pay the consequences. I personally know 1 Somali girl who is married to a Pakistani guy but he is very religious and practising guy.

Anyways, I don't blame Somali girls for marrying outside their race because there is serious shortage of good Somali men, the Somali girls at my university outnumber the Somali guys. There's maybe 1 guy for 5 girls, imagine all the competition. All the guys in this thread badmouthing Somali women should realize that Somali men are one of the main reasons why these girls marry other races, if Somali men would be good husbands and fathers, and actually trying to achieve something in life we wouldn't have this problem.

Its stupid to think this is solely or a majority Somali problem, its a universal problem amongst Muslims communities from different backgrounds residing in the west.. Obviously the only reason why we keep hearing random ajanabi fellas feeding us stories about Somali girls is because we are the same ethnic group as the sisters in mention.. It makes no sense for a random revert to tell you about the arab or asian lass who propose marriage to him or his mate, as she doesn’t have a connection to you unless you know her personally..

True. I'm finding it difficult to believe this whole business of Somali girls being the easiest to propose to being a common occurrence. We must be noticing it more since we are within the community itself and so it's perhaps exaggerated more than it is if not false.

I know a Haitian brother who is from a well to do family, accepted Islam; long after he married a not so beautyful somali woman.
Obviously it was love marriage...and the guy loves his wife and his children!

Although I feel the shame, humiliation and disgust of the girls family, I can neither blame the guy nor the girl!
Two muslim adults are engaged in halal relations!

The probablity that a guy converts to Islam just to get a somali women is very very very small!
U guys are getting parano!

Somali girls, look how much somali men love u; u are so precious to them that they get parano over u...be kind to them

B.

Guys let's put this thread to rest, the girls who do this are a minority and mostly from the salafi group. All you can do is make sure that your female relatives don't get sucked into that group cause once she's in chances are she'll see you as a jahiil and will have more respect for Abu bertrand than her own father.

Lets end this with a quote from a famous philosopher(myself):

Stop trying to regulate pu.ssy.

Guys let's put this thread to rest, the girls who do this are a minority and mostly from the salafi group. All you can do is make sure that your female relatives don't get sucked into that group cause once she's in chances are she'll see you as a jahiil and will have more respect for Abu bertrand than her own father.

Guys let's put this thread to rest, the girls who do this are a minority and mostly from the salafi group. All you can do is make sure that your female relatives don't get sucked into that group cause once she's in chances are she'll see you as a jahiil and will have more respect for Abu bertrand than her own father.

It all comes down to self-hate and low self esteem.

I reckon fathers play a major role in this aswell.. A high percentage of Somali fathers are no good. In the west the Mother is not only the backbone of the family but she also does every little single thing and the daughters see this.. So why make the same mistake as your mother?
They would rather make their own mistakes with a non-Somali regardless of his ethnicity and if this means jumping the boat with a ajanabi who happens to be a waste man.. Marka so be it, because in their eyes no man can be as useless as the Somali man..

Girls need a good, strong male role model as much as males.. If not more!!

yes xaqiiqada waa ta.

I dare any brother in this thread or site to go to your masjid and ask a Pakistani or Arab brother for their sister or daughter for marriage, please share his response. I don't care what anyone says, regarding Muslinimo etc, that Pakistani or Arab brother will reject you and in frank words tell you where to go..

This is my point, and this is what really, truly bothers me. I mean how gabdhaha kale from other races are so qaali, and hard to get while to marry a Somali is so easy. I mean are we inferior to those other races?


Also ur right, it also bothers me with the jaahilnimo and how the same standards arn't applied with all converts, but where whites are more welcomed while blacks are not. At least apply the same criteria and principles.

The problem is how the concept of "marriage" is viewed by most Somalis. Even within the Somali community, it is normal to find people who have multiple divorces behind them. Guur iyo furitaan happen so easily. I've lost count of the number of time I've heard bs such as "dadku way is guursidaan wayna kala tagaan, waa caadi".

Regarding these marriage bandits, then they belong to a minority cult within the Muslim community who refer to themselves as "Salafis" or "Jadiidis". This is how it usually goes:

1 - revert meets a Somali sister.

2 - Revert asks the father of the Somali sister if he can marry his daughter

3 - Father expresses concerns regarding this man who he doesn't know much about, and decides that this person is not suitable for his daughter.

4 - Revert does not take no for an answer. He convinces the sister that her father is a "mubtadic" anyway as he does not belong to their cult and that he is rejecting him purely based on Jaahiliya/racism.

5 - He gets in touch with some jaahil pseudo-scholar from that same cult who declares that the father can not be a wali because he is from Ahlul Bidca and that he (the imam) will step up and assume the role of Wali instead.

Fast forward to six months later when dude gets tired of his latest wife and desires a new one and repeat steps 1 - 5.

I dare any brother in this thread or site to go to your masjid and ask a Pakistani or Arab brother for their sister or daughter for marriage, please share his response. I don't care what anyone says, regarding Muslinimo etc, that Pakistani or Arab brother will reject you and in frank words tell you where to go..

This is my point, and this is what really, truly bothers me. I mean how gabdhaha kale from other races are so qaali, and hard to get while to marry a Somali is so easy. I mean are we inferior to those other races?


Also ur right, it also bothers me with the jaahilnimo and how the same standards arn't applied with all converts, but where whites are more welcomed while blacks are not. At least apply the same criteria and principles.

The problem is how the concept of "marriage" is viewed by most Somalis. Even within the Somali community, it is normal to find people who have multiple divorces behind them. Guur iyo furitaan happen so easily. I've lost count of the number of time I've heard bs such as "dadku way is guursidaan wayna kala tagaan, waa caadi".

Regarding these marriage bandits, then they belong to a minority cult within the Muslim community who refer to themselves as "Salafis" or "Jadiidis". This is how it usually goes:

1 - revert meets a Somali sister.

2 - Revert asks the father of the Somali sister if he can marry his daughter

3 - Father expresses concerns regarding this man who he doesn't know much about, and decides that this person is not suitable for his daughter.

4 - Revert does not take no for an answer. He convinces the sister that her father is a "mubtadic" anyway as he does not belong to their cult and that he is rejecting him purely based on Jaahiliya/racism.

5 - He gets in touch with some jaahil pseudo-scholar from that same cult who declares that the father can not be a wali because he is from Ahlul Bidca and that he (the imam) will step up and assume the role of Wali instead.

Fast forward to six months later when dude gets tired of his latest wife and desires a new one and repeat steps 1 - 5.

@ Repeat steps 1-5.


Indeed this is exactly How it goes down. That being said bro, these people are far, far away from the teachings of the Salaf As Saleh (Pious predecessors) and they do not follow them in good. One who actually cares anything about the Sunnah would know that there is no Nikkah without the permission of the girl's Father Mubtadic or not.

My God, I think this thread mentioned nearly every single social issue Somalis are facing. Despite the healthy discussion, I'm left with a melancholy mood.

I feel like this happens more in African American dominated areas of the USA where Somalis live and in the UK

Horta, are any of the Somali boys here willing to marry gabar oo aheen virgin?

Just a haa or maya will do.