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An In Dept Review Of The 77 War: A Must Watch.

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Re: An In Dept Review Of The 77 War: A Must Watch.

Postby Somalian_Boqor » Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:12 am

Somalian_boqor

Where did you get this?

Introduction into the book back cover:

Colonel Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed's influence on the military and political landscape of Somalia has been felt for more than half a century of service to his country. He took part in two wars that Somalia engaged with Ethiopia. In the first, in 1964 he won a medal and citation for the bravery and leadership he displayed in the battle field. In 1977 war, he was in overall command of the Southern sector of the operation. Poor political leadership lay at the core of the defeat of the Somali army in this war. following the defeat and withdrawal from the battle thretre, Abduallhi Yusuf and other officers tried and failed to stage a coup against the regime. He than tried to topple the regime by armed insurgency. Although Abduallhi Yusuf did not succeed to bring down the government, others who followed his method manged to achieve what he could not. His journey was cut short by the Ethiopian regime who arrested him for six good years without charge or trail, when he stood up for his principle. Both the Ethiopian and Somali regimes were brought down by armed insurgency in 1991 while he was in prison in Addis Ababa.

Following the collapse of the regime and the plunging of Somalia into intermccine war, he helped setup the self-governing Puntland State of Somalia, and became its first president. Six years later he was elected as President of Somalia. Abduallhi Yusuf is a driven man who knew what he wanted in life. He served in the Somali army with distinction on and off the battle field. His impact on the political arena was not successful as in the army. During his presidency, he worked hard to bring about peace in Somalia. His struggle for that objective was hampered by a well-organised conspiracy spreadheaded by prominent figures in his government, and regional powers that were allied to him at some point in the past. Halgan iyo Hagardaamo (Struggle and Conspiracy: A Memoir) is a candid account of the life and time of President Abduallhi Yusuf Ahmed and the events that shaped Somalia for the past fify years.It is about the battles that Colonel Abduallhi Yusuf Ahmed fought literally as well figuratively during this period and the successes and failures that accompanied him. It is about the conspiracy that was woven against the Somali State with help of senior political figures in the country. The book is written in a narrative style that Somali readers will find it enjoyable.
Got it from the back cover of the book. If you need a copy let me know selling copies for $75

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Re: An In Dept Review Of The 77 War: A Must Watch.

Postby luis1 » Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:35 pm

Ok,Somalian_Boqor

May you explain me the meaning of this sentence?
In 1977 war, he was in overall command of the Southern sector of the operation. Poor political leadership lay at the core of the defeat of the Somali army in this war. following the defeat and withdrawal from the battle thretre.

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Re: An In Dept Review Of The 77 War: A Must Watch.

Postby luis1 » Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:45 pm

Somalian_Boqor:Hi, How are you.

If you read the book of Yusuf,why does he say Somalia lost the war?

What are the causes that Somali Army lost the war,political or military?

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Re: An In Dept Review Of The 77 War: A Must Watch.

Postby zingii » Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:31 pm

^^^

Somalis don't loose no matter how many countries gang up on them.
Somalis know how to stand their ground and giving up is not in their
dictionary specially when it comes to war.

You can keep asking the same questions over and over as long as you want
but know that the answer would remain the same and that is (Somalis won).

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Re: An In Dept Review Of The 77 War: A Must Watch.

Postby luis1 » Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:39 pm

Hi,Zingii

May you show any somali or western source wich say Somalia defeated Cuba,Russia and Ethiopia?

If you can show me one source,just one source I will leave this forum now.

If you say Somalia won the war:Why does Yusuf say something different?
In 1977 war, he was in overall command of the Southern sector of the operation. Poor political leadership lay at the core of the defeat of the Somali army in this war. following the defeat and withdrawal from the battle thretre
:clap: :clap: :clap:

I have been here 5 years and nobody can show me one source which say Somalia won the Ogaden War.

I dont want words I want facts,books and sources of the somali "victory" in Ogaden.Show me your sources and I will believe you.

http://www.onwar.com/aced/data/oscar/ogaden1976.htm
As expected, in early February 1978 Ethiopian and Cuban forces launched a two-stage counterattack toward Jijiga. Unexpectedly, however, a column of Cubans and Ethiopians moving north and east crossed the highlands between Jijiga and the Somali border, bypassing Somali troops dug in around the Marda Pass. Thus, the attacking force was able to assault the Somalis from two sides and recapture Jijiga after two days of fighting in which 3,000 Somali troops lost their lives. Within a week, Ethiopia had retaken all of the Ogaden's major towns. On March 9, 1978, Siad Barre recalled the SNA from Ethiopia.

After the SNA withdrawal, the WSLF reverted to guerrilla tactics. By May 1980, the rebels had established control over a significant portion of the Ogaden. Eventually, Ethiopia defeated the WSLF and the few small SNA units that remained in the region after the Somali pullout. In late 1981, however, reports indicated that the WSLF continued to conduct occasional hit-and- run attacks against Ethiopian targets...
Following Moscow's decision to support Addis Ababa, Ethiopia received massive amounts of Soviet arms. Along with Soviet military advisers, about 15,000 Cuban combat troops also arrived. By early 1978, this aid had turned the tide of war in Ethiopia's favor. By March 9, 1978, when Siad Barre announced the withdrawal of the Somali armed forces from the Ogaden, the Somali military had lost 8,000 men--one-third of the SNA, three-quarters of its armored units, and half of the Somali Air Force (SAF).

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Re: An In Dept Review Of The 77 War: A Must Watch.

Postby luis1 » Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:45 pm

Mohamed Farah Aidid interview:

http://www.dispatchesfromthevanishingwo ... DID4-1.pdf

Farah Aidid:
"Siad didn't want to give me command of soldiers because he feared a coup, but at the last
moment, after the army had been defeated, I was given command of the First Division, in the north and organized the retreat. The plan was well done."

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Re: An In Dept Review Of The 77 War: A Must Watch.

Postby luis1 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:52 pm

I would like to buy Yusuf book,this is an interesting book about Ogaden War. :clap:

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Re: An In Dept Review Of The 77 War: A Must Watch.

Postby Talo alle udaa » Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:56 pm

This senile old vermon should rest in peace.

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Re: An In Dept Review Of The 77 War: A Must Watch.

Postby Somalian_Boqor » Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:45 am

I would like to buy Yusuf book,this is an interesting book about Ogaden War. :clap:
indeed it is. :lol:

The Ethiopians got Beaten. 8-)

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Re: An In Dept Review Of The 77 War: A Must Watch.

Postby zingii » Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:27 am

I would like to buy Yusuf book,this is an interesting book about Ogaden War. :clap:
indeed it is. :lol:

The Ethiopians got Beaten. 8-)
8-)

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Re: An In Dept Review Of The 77 War: A Must Watch.

Postby luis1 » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:36 am

Somalian_Boqor
The war was between Somalia and Ethiopia and in that Somalia won.

But against the combined forces of more than 4 different countries including yemen, Cuba, Russia and Ethiopia Somalia was defeated
You said Somalia was defeated by Cuba and Russia.

Somalia lost Ogaden War.

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Re: An In Dept Review Of The 77 War: A Must Watch.

Postby zingii » Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:30 pm

:lol: :lol:

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Re: An In Dept Review Of The 77 War: A Must Watch.

Postby luis1 » Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:47 pm

Zingii:

Do you have any important to say about Ogaden War?

Do you have any sources which prove Somali victory in 1978? :clap:

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Re: An In Dept Review Of The 77 War: A Must Watch.

Postby waryaa » Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:54 pm

Thnx sboqor 10000 times


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