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Re: Kissing a beard for barakah

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:27 am
by DR-YALAXOOW
they are kissing this beard(prophets beard) for the Love of the Prophet. listen what they are chanting( allahuma wasalii calaa maxamed allahuma salii calaa maxamed) :up: :up: :rose:

this people are doing great cibaada whichs loving the prophet and ku salinta nabiga scw. its waajib in islam for evry muslim to show hes love towards rasuulka scw
and those of you who had being brainwashed by wahaabis you can call this worshipping. listen wahaabi morons this is not worshipping. this is a people who show their Love of prophet Mohamed scw.

Re: Kissing a beard for barakah

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:58 am
by Kukri
creepy!

Re: Kissing a beard for barakah

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:19 am
by AhlulbaytSoldier
What would any of you do, if you were given a few strands of the Rasuls scw hair, without a shadow of a doubt in it's authenticity? Would you treasure it or would you just throw it away like your own hair?

Khalid ibn walid r.a used to kiss some of the hair of prophet pbuh.
So thats not shirk.

I would do the same if it was really the hair of prophet pbuh.

Re: Kissing a beard for barakah

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:00 pm
by sadeboi
PO could you define what barakah is?

Re: Kissing a beard for barakah

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:14 pm
by Colonel
1. How can they claim that this is the beard of the Prophet (SAW)? Where's the proof?

2. The Prophet (SAW) did not shave nor trim his beard so how did they come to the conclusion that this is the beard of Rasullulah (SAW)?

Re: Kissing a beard for barakah

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:12 pm
by Adali
so what if it actually were the hair from the Prophet (SCW), would that give them the right to fulfill this ritual ?? i am not going as far as to say this is Shirk, but i am reminded of what Abu Bakar said upon the death of the Prophet. This hair and the belongings of the Prophet should not be used in Idol worship, these things may be considered relics and therefor should only be kept for historic reasons.

There is a difference between remembrance/respect/love and worship, this rituals look identical to the Christian ritual of transubstantiation which is according to Islamic teachings a form of idol worship.

Re: Kissing a beard for barakah

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:52 pm
by *Nobleman*
These people have lost the plot, May Allah guide them

Re: Kissing a beard for barakah

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:49 pm
by SultanOrder
Nobleman may Allah guide you

Re: Kissing a beard for barakah

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:14 pm
by SultanOrder
My rebuttal is this viewtopic.php?f=18&t=297618

Re: Kissing a beard for barakah

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:41 pm
by *Nobleman*
Nobleman may Allah guide you
Ameen brother, I need help.

In all honesty do yo think kissing a box supposedly containing the prophets pbuh hair will give you extra baraka or good deed :?:

Re: Kissing a beard for barakah

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:44 pm
by SultanOrder
Bro In all honesty you judged these people not me. If I believed that it was the rasuls scw hair, I would kiss it even without the hope of any baraka from it.

Re: Kissing a beard for barakah

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:54 pm
by ManD333q
Nobleman may Allah guide you
:shock: :shock: :shock: :o

Re: Kissing a beard for barakah

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:57 pm
by sadeboi
so what if it actually were the hair from the Prophet (SCW), would that give them the right to fulfill this ritual ?? i am not going as far as to say this is Shirk, but i am reminded of what Abu Bakar said upon the death of the Prophet. This hair and the belongings of the Prophet should not be used in Idol worship, these things may be considered relics and therefor should only be kept for historic reasons.

There is a difference between remembrance/respect/love and worship, this rituals look identical to the Christian ritual of transubstantiation which is according to Islamic teachings a form of idol worship.
PO explain the difference between transubstantiation and what those are doing.

You thread did not answer these questions.

Re: Kissing a beard for barakah

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:04 pm
by SultanOrder
^sadeboi I thought that was a joke, I didn't even take it seriously. Transubstantiation is when the bread and whine of the catholic ritual in mass actually turns to the physical body and blood of Jesus Chris (as). How that could be related to this has me dumbfounded. And why I would have to answer something so ridiculousness as that statement has be more dumbfounded. Plz don't come to me with ridiculousness things.

I did not come to answer wild accusations of what this video could possible be represented as, what they might believe, or how this is related to any crazy christian doctrines. My premise is simple, they are venerating the possible remains of the Rasul scw, and I have come to answer the legality of it in Islam, and the precedence of the Sahaba of doing this. Let us please remain within that context, because that is the only thing that can be taken from this video, as there is no actual speech other than sending blessings to the Messenger scw.

Re: Kissing a beard for barakah

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:11 pm
by sadeboi
So to help you understand the relevance of the transubstantiation comment, we need to go back to my earlier question. Define baraka for us, and what baraka does for the individual.