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Re: The action of Saudi King explained

Postby Keyblade » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:12 am

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Re: The action of Saudi King explained

Postby ZubeirAwal » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:13 am

Subhanallah are you trying to refute the Qur'an , seriously?, walya3uudabillah, Saudi Arabia is an Ally to Britian, America, Isreal , now tell me, was the prophet an ally to these people?

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Re: The action of Saudi King explained

Postby grandpakhalif » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:13 am



authibillah this shirkist who calls upon the Prophet instead of Allah? Is that your scholar? May Allah curse those who call upon other than him.

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Re: The action of Saudi King explained

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lol you mean USING CAP LOCKS TO SHOW HOW CORRECT I AM AND HOW INCORRECT YOU ARE!

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Re: The action of Saudi King explained

Postby grandpakhalif » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:15 am

Subhanallah are you trying to refute the Qur'an , seriously?, walya3uudabillah, Saudi Arabia is an Ally to Britian, America, Isreal , now tell me, was the prophet an ally to these people?

Nah I ask the scholars what the Quran means and they told me that: because allah says:

"So ask the People of Knowledge if you do not know" Qur'an:21:7

It is you who is refuting Qur'an. :up:

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Re: The action of Saudi King explained

Postby ZubeirAwal » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:20 am

Now, Now, don't try to use Allah's word like some sort of game, this is the Qur'an, i am simply showing you one Ayat, time and time again, and here you are trying to refute it, and now you are accusing me of refuting it?, i am just a mere muslim who only practicing to seek more, while the main subject in the salafi sect is to tell one " Don't do this, Don't do that" whilst Habib ali al jufri says " Doing this will encourage your iman, doing that will encourage your iman"

Grandpa, going closer to Allah through the prophet is allowed and encouraged in the deen do you know that?, Bilal Ibn Habash went to the grave of the prophet and asked him to ask Allah to send rain down to Arabia and it rained, if this was shirk, this would never happen, your theory is now disproved.

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Re: The action of Saudi King explained

Postby ZubeirAwal » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:22 am

Signs of cowardice are starting to show, you only know how to post videos of sheikh hebel baa yidhi, instead of making an effort to disapprove me, this is only proof that your nothing but cattle, one who follows everything a man says/does.

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Re: The action of Saudi King explained

Postby union » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:23 am

AbuukarSubeer, what is the purpose of going to a grave to ask for divine intercession?
Are you advocating a position similar to that of Christians--that there must be bridges between man and God?

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Re: The action of Saudi King explained

Postby grandpakhalif » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:23 am

Okay, Abubkar obviously I can't penetrate through your thick head so I'll stop here. Poison has infected your mind and is beyond repair.



Mac salam.

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Re: The action of Saudi King explained

Postby Keyblade » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:26 am

Grandpa, going closer to Allah through the prophet is allowed and encouraged in the deen do you know that?, Bilal Ibn Habash went to the grave of the prophet and asked him to ask Allah to send rain down to Arabia and it rained, if this was shirk, this would never happen, your theory is now disproved.
Wtf, how is a dead person going to ask Allah something for you? Are you serious?

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Re: The action of Saudi King explained

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Re: The action of Saudi King explained

Postby ZubeirAwal » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:30 am

Grandpa, going closer to Allah through the prophet is allowed and encouraged in the deen do you know that?, Bilal Ibn Habash went to the grave of the prophet and asked him to ask Allah to send rain down to Arabia and it rained, if this was shirk, this would never happen, your theory is now disproved.
Wtf, how is a dead person going to ask Allah something for you? Are you serious?
The Prophet is not dead , he simply went through a transition of this dimension, into another, Aakhira, or Barzaakh

“My life is good for you. You will relate about me and it will be related to you, and my death is a good for you, for your actions will be presented to me. If I see goodness I will praise Allah, and if I see other than that I will ask forgiveness of Him for you.”

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Re: The action of Saudi King explained

Postby grandpakhalif » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:31 am

Stop narrating da'eef hadiths you bafoon!

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Re: The action of Saudi King explained

Postby SultanOrder » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:34 am

authibillah this shirkist who calls upon the Prophet instead of Allah? Is that your scholar? May Allah curse those who call upon other than him.
Tirmidhi relates, through his chain of narrators from 'Uthman ibn Hunayf, that a blind man came to the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) and said,

"I've been afflicted in my eyesight, so please pray to Allah for me." The Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) said: "Go make ablution (wudu), perform two rak'as of prayer, and then say:

"Oh Allah, I ask You and turn to You through my Prophet Muhammad, the Prophet of mercy; O Muhammad (Ya Muhammad), I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight [and in another version: "for my need, that it may be fulfilled. O Allah, grant him intercession for me"]."

The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) added, "And if there is some need, do the same."

This hadith was recorded was recorded by Bukhari in his "al-Tarikh al-kabir", by Ibn Majah in his "Sunan", where he said it was rigorously authenticated (SAHIH), by Nasa'i in "Amal al-yawm wa al-layla", by Abu Nu'aym in "Ma'rifa al-Sahaba", by Baihaqi in "Dala'il al-nubuwwa", by Mundhiri in "al-Targhib wa al-tahrib", by Haythami in "Majma' al zawa'id wa manba' al-fawa'id", by Tabarani in "al-Mu'jam al-kabir", by Ibn Khuzayma in his "Sahih", and by others. Nearly 15 hadith masters ("huffaz", hadith authorities with more than 100,000 hadiths and their chains of transmission by memory) have explicitly stated that this hadith is rigorously authenticated (sahih).
Now keep in mind that when he is calling on nabi muhammad scw (Ya Muhammad), that is after he has done the two rak'at and the prophet scw is not present but somewhere else. So what is the difference if the prophet is physically far away and alive, and this is legitamate, and the prophet is physically far away and dead?

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Re: The action of Saudi King explained

Postby ZubeirAwal » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:34 am

Stop narrating da'eef hadiths you bafoon!
I thought you left after the arse whooping i gave you, i think its that time of the day where you pray to allah to be the slave of King abdullah, run along...


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