The action of Saudi King explained

[Keyblade]

Grandpa, going closer to Allah through the prophet is allowed and encouraged in the deen do you know that?, Bilal Ibn Habash went to the grave of the prophet and asked him to ask Allah to send rain down to Arabia and it rained, if this was shirk, this would never happen, your theory is now disproved.

Wtf, how is a dead person going to ask Allah something for you? Are you serious?

The Prophet is not dead , he simply went through a transition of this dimension, into another, Aakhira, or Barzaakh

“My life is good for you. You will relate about me and it will be related to you, and my death is a good for you, for your actions will be presented to me. If I see goodness I will praise Allah, and if I see other than that I will ask forgiveness of Him for you.”

Everyone goes into barzakh. Doesn't make em any less dead.

[grandpakhalif]

PO read Kitaabul-Tawheed and you'll find out.

[ZubeirAwal]

PO, brother, the ultimate mission of the neo-salafi's is to divide the Ummah from their prophet subhanallah, they are always bringing issues such as:
"Are the prophets parents in hell or heaven" as if they are seated comfterbly in heaven to then determine who's going to enter and who isn't.
These people are not muslim, they are sick wallahi.

[ZubeirAwal]

The Prophet is not dead , he simply went through a transition of this dimension, into another, Aakhira, or Barzaakh

“My life is good for you. You will relate about me and it will be related to you, and my death is a good for you, for your actions will be presented to me. If I see goodness I will praise Allah, and if I see other than that I will ask forgiveness of Him for you.”

Everyone goes into barzakh. Doesn't make em any less dead.

Have you read the Hadith i just posted? if you doubt its trustworthy-ness here are its chain of narrators, This hadith has been narrated from Ibn Mas’ud by Al-Bazzar in his Musnad(1:397) with a chain declared sound by Imam Al-Suyuti in Manahil Al-Safa (pg.31, #8), Ibn Hajar Al-Haytami in Majma’ Al-Zawa’id (9:24 #91), Al-Iraqi in Tarh al-Tathrib (3:297), Al-Munawi in Fayd Al-Qadir (3:401), Al-Khafaji and Al-Qari in Sharh Al-Shifa’ (1:102) and others.

When you say like any time "Sallalhu calayhi wasalam" an angel tells the prophet of your name and your fathers name, and telling that you have sent blessings and prayers upon him, he will then praise Allah, this is proof that the prophet is alive inside his grave, the status of a prophet is different to a human, u must rememebr that.
Reported by ‘Ammar ibn Yassir r.a. that the Prophet s.a.w. said: “Verily, Allah has put an angel in charge of my grave and given him the names of all creatures. No one invokes blessings upon me until the Day of Resurrection except he informs me of his name and the of his father thus: So and so son of so and so has just invoked blessings upon you.”


Abu Huraira r.a. reported that the Prophet s.a.w. said : “By the one in Whose hand is Abu al-Qasim’s soul, ‘Isa ibn Maryam shall descend as a just and wise ruler. He shall destroy the cross, slay the swine, eradicate discord and grudges, and money shall be offered to him but he will not accept it. Then he shall stand at my grave side and say: “O Muhammad!” and I will answer him.”

This hadith is narrated by Abu Ya’la in his Musnad (11:462) with a sahih chain as declared by Ibn Hajar Al-Haytami in Majma’ Zawa’id (8:211)

[SultanOrder]

a l-anbiyâ'u aHyâ'un fi qubûrihim yuSallûn
"The Prophets are alive in their graves, praying to their Lord".
A sound (sahih) tradition related on the authority of Anas ibn Malik (r) by: al-Bazzar in his
Musnad, Abu Ya`la in his Musnad, Ibn `Adi in al-Kamil fi al-du`afa', Tammam al-Razi in alFawa'id, al-Bayhaqi in Hayat al-anbiya' fi quburihim, Abu Nu`aym in Akhbar Asbahan, Ibn
`Asakir in Târeekh Dimashq, al-Haythami in Majma` al-zawa'id (8:211), al-Suyuti in Anbâ'
al-adhkiya' bi-hayat al-anbiya' (#5), and al-Albani, in Silsilat al-ahadith al-sahihah (#621).

[ZubeirAwal]

Most of these sick neo-salafi's today love to chant the words " The Prophet is dead" not even with emotion, the tone of their voice tells me, they don't love the prophet, they are infact having the time of their life, if the prophet was alive, they were to be all slain and executed just how Abu bakr sadiq (R.A) and his mighty army defeated all the mushriks.

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There's a difference between being reverent of the Prophet and worshiping him.

[ZubeirAwal]

There's a difference between being reverent of the Prophet and worshiping him.

Visiting his grave does not indicate that you are worshiping him, thats the biggest nonsense i've ever heard.

[SultanOrder]

There's a difference between being reverent of the Prophet and worshiping him.

Saxiib these issues of theology are not in your general particular of interests...

[union]

There's a difference between being reverent of the Prophet and worshiping him.

Visiting his grave does not indicate that you are worshiping him, thats the biggest nonsense i've ever heard.

Do people go to his grave for the mere purpose of sightseeing or asking for divine intercession?

[union]

There's a difference between being reverent of the Prophet and worshiping him.

Saxiib these issues of theology are not in your general particular of interests...

That used to be true, but I've started to appreciate the power that comes along with lacing personal opinion with ayah and hadith. Trust that I will start doing that more often.

[SultanOrder]

There's a difference between being reverent of the Prophet and worshiping him.

Saxiib these issues of theology are not in your general particular of interests...

That used to be true, but I've started to appreciate the power that comes along with lacing personal opinion with ayah and hadith. Trust that I will start doing that more often.

aww you feel left out, why didn't you just say so bro?

[ZubeirAwal]

There's a difference between being reverent of the Prophet and worshiping him.

Visiting his grave does not indicate that you are worshiping him, thats the biggest nonsense i've ever heard.

Do people go to his grave for the mere purpose of sightseeing or asking for divine intercession?

Yes, if you go to the prophets grave and merely ask something from allah, it will most happen to you, because asking something to allah through prophets, will always be answered, and going through the prophet, will always bring you more closer to god, Sufis and their dhikr (praising allah) raises their spirituality to a high extent, that they are sending huge amount of positive energy waves out of their body into the world.

[ZubeirAwal]

Allah testifies in Qur'an that even the Shirt of Prophet Yousuf (as) was able to benefit the others, and had the power of giving sights to the blind.

[Yusufali 12:93-96] "Go with this my shirt, and cast it over the face of my father: he will come to see (clearly).Then when the bearer of the good news came, He cast (the shirt) over his face, and he forthwith regained clear sight.

With this verse in mind we would like to pose some questions to the Salafi:

Can anybody still deny the witness of Qur'an and say that it is associating partners to Allah, when we say that the shirt of Yusuf (as) also got the power to benefit others?

Did Prophet Yaqoob (as) commit shirk by seeking the benefit/help from the Shirt of Yusuf (as), instead of asking it DIRECTLY from Allah?

If simply the shirt of 'a' Nabi (a material possession 'non-living') has the power to restore one's eyesight, then by the same token why is it Bidahto seek blessings / cure by touching the grave of Rasulullah (s) who was after all the Chief of all Prophet's?

Would touching a shirt have greater healing powers than touching the grave of Rasulullah (s)? If the Salafi claim that Rasulullah (s) is DEAD, then what about a Shirt is that a living organism?

[union]

Visiting his grave does not indicate that you are worshiping him, thats the biggest nonsense i've ever heard.

Do people go to his grave for the mere purpose of sightseeing or asking for divine intercession?

Yes, if you go to the prophets grave and merely ask something from allah, it will most happen to you, because asking something to allah through prophets, will always be answered, and going through the prophet, will always bring you more closer to god, Sufis and their dhikr (praising allah) raises their spirituality to a high extent, that they are sending huge amount of positive energy waves out of their body into the world.

I think the problem with going to the grave of a person and praying for special providence is that the religion starts moving away from being focused on the worship of God and more toward a cult of personality around certain human figures. My understanding of a prophet is of a normal human being chosen for a special task of representing and interpreting the will of God to the people, not as a medium through which prayers are sent. I'm sure you can go fatwa shopping or cherry pick a few hadiths to support your practice, but if you think about it at its root Islam is about the worship and total submission to God and God alone, in surah fatiha, which we all recite daily, it says "You we worship; it is You we ask for help". the sufis veneration of graves and relics seems more reminiscent of Catholicism than the pure and simple form of Islam that was revealed to the prophet Muhammad saw 1400 years ago. That's just my two cents