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Re: if somalis were enslaved

Postby Alphanumeric » Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:28 pm

What I want is a giant sundae topped with strawberry syrup and crushed York peppermint patties. But I don't see that happening. What I do see happening is the end of "Somalinimo".

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Re: if somalis were enslaved

Postby metamorphosis » Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:04 pm

What I want is a giant sundae topped with strawberry syrup and crushed York peppermint patties. But I don't see that happening. What I do see happening is the end of "Somalinimo".
:lol: whats your take on the end of somalinio?

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Re: if somalis were enslaved

Postby Alphanumeric » Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:09 pm

I don't have one. In the diaspora, it will be diluted by global culture.

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Re: if somalis were enslaved

Postby metamorphosis » Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:13 pm

I don't have one. In the diaspora, it will be diluted by global culture.
cool. forget somali i think the whole world will be home to multiracial people in 100 or so years.

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Re: if somalis were enslaved

Postby Alphanumeric » Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:20 pm

Multiracial? I'm not sure how true that will be.

Assuming we haven't destroyed ourselves in 100 years, I think what will come of the population will be a rift between the haves and have-nots. Culture might play a major role in deciding who follows who in political schemes. African, Middle Eastern, and Turkish populations will explode. Some say by 120+% for the MidEast, in the next 20 years. Over the next 100? Lol, who knows? Will it be multiracial make up of people? No. Most people who marry outside of their race marry after education and work, being in the middle class, usually. The poor are marrying into their own race and having babies much faster than anyone can inter-mingle. I think the world by then will be divided heavily, along lines of culture and wealth.

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Re: if somalis were enslaved

Postby Adali » Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:29 pm

Multiracial? I'm not sure how true that will be.

Assuming we haven't destroyed ourselves in 100 years, I think what will come of the population will be a rift between the haves and have-nots. Culture might play a major role in deciding who follows who in political schemes. African, Middle Eastern, and Turkish populations will explode. Some say by 120+% for the MidEast, in the next 20 years. Over the next 100? Lol, who knows? Will it be multiracial make up of people? No. Most people who marry outside of their race marry after education and work, being in the middle class, usually. The poor are marrying into their own race and having babies much faster than anyone can inter-mingle. I think the world by then will be divided heavily, along lines of culture and wealth.
Alphanumeric, i have seen a family reunion end up like UN conference for the youngsters, some of us spoke fluent german, danish and norwegian, we could understand each other with the help of the broken somali of course, but the canadian cousins were complete isolated, i still remember them. :lol: :lol: that is what await us but in a larger scale, with older people.

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Re: if somalis were enslaved

Postby Alphanumeric » Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:33 pm

When it comes to Somalis, we're done bro. Language and culture is gone, very soon.

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Re: if somalis were enslaved

Postby Jaidi » Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:41 pm

Alpha I dont agree with your predictions and I dont think its cemented by any real evidence. Religiosity isn't wholly determined by location.

I'll give you the example of the North Africans in France. You've got 4th and 3rd generation people there who are even MORE religious than their forefathers that initially settled in France. There are similar examples for some 2nd and 3rd generations South Asians here. I don't see this massive disintegration and disinterest you are talking about.

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Re: if somalis were enslaved

Postby Alphanumeric » Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:56 pm

Lol, please, 2nd and third generation South Asians? Are you serious? The only thing that can be said about France with certainty is the unity that poverty has caused among North African immigrants. Are they more religious? Lol, I disagree. Looking to the Caribbean, there is more evidence to support my claim than there is yours.

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Re: if somalis were enslaved

Postby Bro » Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:05 pm

Like the african americans do you think they would treat each other like africans americans do consideringveach other brothers or having relation despite having different roots and origins? :?
Do you think we would forget qabiil after having assimulated to the culture of those who enslaved us? :shock: This is hypotherical. I know the seas will go dry before we are enslaved. :D
No, Somalis by nature waa umad iska dhiig kuluul nor do they make good slaves :down:
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However, east africa did go through similar dilemma like that of west africa, arabs and the portuguese where the first to set their slave trade but eventually decided to go else where, because they can't domesticate them. :lol:

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Re: if somalis were enslaved

Postby Jaidi » Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:12 pm

Lol, please, 2nd and third generation South Asians? Are you serious? The only thing that can be said about France with certainty is the unity that poverty has caused among North African immigrants. Are they more religious? Lol, I disagree. Looking to the Caribbean, there is more evidence to support my claim than there is yours.



What do you mean by the first statement? The French part is fact. Watch the AJE documentary recently produced on French Algerians.You've got guys making testimonies about their parents hardly prayed and they are different. Mosque attendance up as well. Fact is many have been there for generations, yet Islam hasn't disappeared at all from that country. Somalis aren't exactly very prosperous in the West nor can they be fully assimilated like Euro immigrants were.

What about the Caribbean? Are you referring to the descendants of slaves or Indians?

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Re: if somalis were enslaved

Postby Alphanumeric » Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:32 pm

Canada isn't France. If you want to know what'll happen here, look to the west and 4th generation Arabs in Alberta. The South Asian comment was meant to point out that you should know well enough how many are no longer practicing the religion. The Somali family unit, as dead as it is, will only aid in dissolving any cultural and religious ties descendants may have.

We can bicker back and forth but the only thing we can do is wait and see. And I'm seeing enough to convince me of my claim.

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Re: if somalis were enslaved

Postby Jaidi » Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:47 pm

Canada isn't France. If you want to know what'll happen here, look to the west and 4th generation Arabs in Alberta. The South Asian comment was meant to point out that you should know well enough how many are no longer practicing the religion. The Somali family unit, as dead as it is, will only aid in dissolving any cultural and religious ties descendants may have.

We can bicker back and forth but the only thing we can do is wait and see. And I'm seeing enough to convince me of my claim.
Lebanese immigration began in 1882, because of situations within Lebanon and restrictive Canadian laws these immigrants were 90% Christian. These immigrants were mostly economic migrants seeking greater prosperity in the New World.
Their Christianity allowed for them to easier assimilate. Is Islam a universal religion? Do you think its solely applicable and able to be practiced in countries of origin?

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Re: if somalis were enslaved

Postby yungnfresh » Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:47 pm

It could never happen...we won't even necessarily work for money, no way we'd ever work for free lol

Hypothetically speaking tho, qabiil is sacred to Somalis so we'd always remain divided along those lines...arguments would be over which tribe has the wealthiest owners or some shit.

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Re: if somalis were enslaved

Postby Colonel » Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:50 pm

When it comes to Somalis, we're done bro. Language and culture is gone, very soon.
Saxiib what's with the doom and gloom? People can't forget their ways/language after 2/3 generations, although i do agree that Somali parents should do more to teach their kids Somali.
Alpha I dont agree with your predictions and I dont think its cemented by any real evidence. Religiosity isn't wholly determined by location.

I'll give you the example of the North Africans in France. You've got 4th and 3rd generation people there who are even MORE religious than their forefathers that initially settled in France. There are similar examples for some 2nd and 3rd generations South Asians here. I don't see this massive disintegration and disinterest you are talking about.
Jaidi is absolutely right, and it's not just the North Africans but also the West Africans, Comoros and so on. Have you been to France Alpha? You'll be shocked to see youth being more religious than their parents.


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