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The Power of QABIL AND BASRA!

Postby TZ Somali » Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:58 am

BASRA AND QABIL; THE MARRIAGE OF HATE!



One may be forgiven to wonder why Somalia, a nation ten million people who share almost everything, same religion, language, and not to mention history among others be at war with itself.

The fact is tribal difference is the source of this civil war that has engulf the country for years now. In a nation where tribes are worshiped and is second to none in terms of the enormous influence and authority it has over the population, it’s easy to see why Somalia is in pieces.

After 21 years of brutal rule, President Siyat barre was ousted from power in 1991 by tribal militia and later fled to Nigeria. Since then nothing has changed on the political front and the advent political peace processes that followed designed to heal the tribal differences between the tribes and retrieved Somalia from the brink of self-destruction has failed on more than one occasion.

The poignant pain and suffering by innocent civilians has been the bypass product of conflict and violence within Somalia for years now, including brutality directed towards them by different tribal intuitions and factional leaders that led to hundred of thousands of Somalis to flee their be loving country. The urgent for peace is crucial to the very existence and rebuilding of Somalia now than ever before, unless the international community and Somali warring parties achieves that, then peace will remain an elusive reality for many Somalis.

This urgent need for peace was realize in the recent peace initiative designed to produce a long-term solution. The Mbagathi peaces conference held in Nairobi, Kenya that was sponsored by United Nations, IGAD and Chaired by Kenya government, but unfortunately just like many other peace initiatives before it, it failed miserably.

Unfortunately this is due to the fact that Somalia political structures is in turmoil and are both tribal base and driven where individual are encouraged to render their life, wealth, welfare and loyalty to their respectful tribal rather than the country.

Its fair to assume that the civil war was an absolute product of that misguided abnormality not to mention very sick culture that has been the driving force behind this war. Various faction leaders have taken advantages of it for almost two decades of these cultural defects that govern all Somali thinking and conscience. They have integrated this sickened value that most Somalis hold dear into the political structure for they’re on good.

We know for a fact that greed and the desire for absolute wealth and power by tribal leaders has been the engine force behind this war, our land and ocean have been raped and robbed before our very eyes repeatedly under the supervision of crooked and mentally incompetent individuals.

We have seen the decline of our fishing stocks for sometime now, and this is due to the fact that our ocean has been the dumping ground for very toxic chemicals and fishing ponds for illegal fishing vessels for years, thanks to the greed of the few who have made this possible.

The implication of this is apparent, even though the country is littered with enormous reservoirs of natural resources such as oil, rivers, among others yet the people are starving to death on daily bases. As usual they always justify the unnecessary death of their fellow countrymen by assigning blame to natural events or disaster such as draught, floods among others.

What makes such evildoing of this nature and magnitude thrive or prosper in Somalia is the absolute silence or lack of concern by our intellectuals who regard themselves as unique breed of their own, they have let the slaughter of their own fellow countrymen by very mentally ill individuals triumph over basic logic and commonsense. History will remember them as accomplices to the war crimes that consumed and send thousand of women and children prematurely to their graves.

Peace will always remain elusive unless we alter our thinking and conscience with regard to our tribal cultures that encourage loyalty to tribes and revolt to the notion of unity, democracy and authority, this has been the catalyst to this war and render us stateless for almost two decades.

Some have argued that is possible for peace to be established under present condition without abandoning our tribal values that we hold so dear and is an integral feature of our identity as both nation and people. In my view the idea peace can be established under the present condition where political hostilities and distrust among tribes is fuel by this disgusted culture that seeks not to embrace the opposing party, but seeks to destroying it is a product of a bias, misinformed and intellectually corrupt mind.

For peace to be achieved we need to completely distance ourselves from tribal politics that has been the central pillar of bad governance and prosecution in Somalia for so long, as well as a complete rethinking is required for such peace and prosperity to be established in our homeland.


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Postby AMAT-ALLAH » Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:07 am

''Its fair to assume that the civil war was an absolute product of that misguided abnormality not to mention very sick culture that has been the driving force behind this war. ''

I think thats a fair judgement. Nonetheless i have my own thesis on how the war was flamed to new hights, before it was a matter of tribal pomp.

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Postby TZ Somali » Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:09 am

well im not aware of that new dimension..do you mind if you stipulate more on that....thanks

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Postby AMAT-ALLAH » Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:16 am

Once upon a time, there was this chick called Xallimo and some dude named Farax, they were madly in love--BUT---*drum beat* they came from two families that were sworn as enemies.

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Laughing Laughing --Now with the benefit of hindsight, the perfeclty-predictable ending did not conclude. Sad
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Im sorry TZ, im bored! Embarassed

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Great topic though Very Happy

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Postby TZ Somali » Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:18 am

lool...im not suprised your bored...your afce says it all....


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Postby RED STAR » Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:19 am

Did you say TALIBAN!!!!!

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Postby AMAT-ALLAH » Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:20 am

Waar that face aint a sign of boredom, more like ''watch your step, or ill stomp on you'' --Look. Very Happy

sorry...it was a joke bro Laughing
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Postby TZ Somali » Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:19 am

lool.....i fink im in luv.....
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Postby Basra- » Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:34 am

"For peace to be achieved we need to completely distance ourselves from tribal politics that has been the central pillar of bad governance and prosecution in Somalia for so long, as well as a complete rethinking is required for such peace and prosperity to be established in our homeland"

I rudely disagree. Tribal or what i call-- Qabil-- is highly useful component of our rich Somali culture! Our culture is one of the very valuable possesion we have as SOMALIS.The benefits of it is priceless.IT creates class system which is highly important for our economy.These systems brings order among ourselves.IT creates identification system.IT promotes a sense of a community network-- u know-- each qabil has its qaraan' system of money donation & helping their people'.It serves as a potent tool in our culture to record History in Somalia.

So--mister TZED save us this philosophical Bru ha ha about qabil!

PS: What is your qabil by the way? I am curious. Rolling Eyes Laughing Laughing Laughing

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Postby TZ Somali » Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:15 am

It’s very unfortunate after what has Qabil done to Somalia, you have suffice to glorify it, in all conceivable positive manner, No doubt Qabil to some extend do have some positive values, but to depict it in a such positive term in light what of all atrocities, death and destructions that it has instigated in the course of human history, and in particular Rwanda and in Somalia; is at itself a tragedy in the personal level. I hope you will take time to reflect on the carnage, chaos not to mention the death and displacement of many of your countrymen, furthermore is quite clear should you have choose to deploy your inteligence in advance you might have seen that the negative impications of Qabil outweigh any conceivable benefits.

And with regard to my tribe, the last time I checked I was inform by my parent that I was “Somali” by every sense, on which I’m Proud to be.

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Postby TZ Somali » Tue Sep 13, 2005 5:22 am

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I rudely disagree. Tribal or what i call-- Qabil-- is highly useful component of our rich Somali culture! Our culture is one of the very valuable possesion we have as SOMALIS.The benefits of it is priceless.IT creates class system which is highly important for our economy.These systems brings order among ourselves.IT creates identification system.IT promotes a sense of a community network-- u know-- each qabil has its qaraan' system of money donation & helping their people'."

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Basra having read your poignant reply about Qabil I am truely tongue tied with disbelieve .Apparently With such an idelology and conception I presume you will never progress in this word, and thats not a threat but a mere fact because you tend to be too fusy,judmental,egocentric.

The concept of qabil has no strong substance in this present time. As long as we all muslim that loves and live together side by side in hamorny thats all that matters .You need to reflect back once again on how this tendency of tribalisim has exazibated and destroyed our motherland and turned the country into a clan warfare for the past ten years.

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Postby Basra- » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:52 am

TZed@lol



"I presume you will never progress in this word"


Mad Mad You presume WRONG!!! I consider myself very progressive.I view qabil in a very prosseive perspective.Instead of throwing it out into the primitive busket--- i cherish it with --art & musuem sort of artification.Qabil is a beautiful thing. Yes people have died as a result of qabil--but that is human error-- not qabil error.We should not abuse it, only embrace it.Besides --life without qabil will be boring.You say you are A Somali--not a somali with a qabil??Well that is rather dull, dont you think? Qabil is the spice of somali life.We will all be equal & plain if we didn't have our various diverse qabil identification.Of course if you are a Hawiya-- life will decidedly be terrible & i wont blame a hawiya opposing qabilism--since--they have the low hand of benefit.The low class.Anyway Tzed-- i hope you abandon this hypochondriac idealism & be real for a change, & say after me- Qabil Rules!!!

"and thats not a threat but a mere fact because you tend to be too fusy,judmental,egocentric"


Rolling Eyes No, its not a threat-- its an insult.I am wounnnndeeeeeeeeeed!! Mad Mad But that doesn't mean you are wrong. Rolling Eyes Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Postby *HannaH* » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:57 am

I didn't think Abgaal people even knew what a computer was till I met Boobsra... up

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Postby Basra- » Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:24 am

Hannah@loool



Laughing Laughing You know-- i lofffffffff it when you have that annoying look-- that gasp of total ---total disgust & anger that makes you want to scream loud from your extra large chair!! Rolling Eyes Laughing Laughing Laughing

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Postby *HannaH* » Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:29 am

Boobsra Wink


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