Are we Somalis Black yes or no.

[Adali]

Etarix walaale what I am trying to say is, Magaca "Dadka Madoow" already waa la qaatey, oo waxaa loo yaqaan dad ilahay waxna iskaga darin, markaa waa in aan midib anagana sheeganaa. europeanka waxaa loo yaqaan "Dadka CAD" sawabta ayagaa ka hor qaatay Aasiyaanka oo run ahaanti ka cad ama ee isku midib yihiin, bal fiiri masawirkaan.



laakin wee cadahay in labadaan qowmiyad ee kala duwan yihiin marka waxaa loo yaqaan aasiyaanka "Dadka Jaallo" sida in lagu kaadshey oo kale.

example two
Native AMerican are not "Red people" yet they are called that.



why should be be called black people when we have very little in common with Bantu who are known as "black people" its not that I am against the correct term for some our people skin color, I am against the confusion it might bring. wouldn't you find it confusing if Asians and Europeans were all known as White people when clearly they differ in facial features(Nose, Eyes, Head) and also height, Hair and all things but skin color. The same we differ tremendously from Bantu(West Africans) when it comes to facial features, hair, and physical body.

[Estarix]

Look first one must differentiate phenotype from skin colour.
What is known as black universally is having dark - skin pigmentation typically found in Sub saharan Africa. Blackness cannot be negated because of culture; because culturally we may be different but then so are different African ethnic groups, that doesnt mean we have to seperate ourself from those we share skin colour with.
Black is a social and racial classification, its not a classification completely reserved for Western Africans and new world blacks. The pigmentation of Somalis generally matches that of their Bantu neighbours, culturally we share with our cushitic neighbour which is African. There is nothing new here, no need to create a different classification just because you look different or have a different culture. If you want to create an argument based on genetics then we are are half - negroid, you can argue we are partially caucasoid. But our skin colour is of dark - skin like the rest of sub-saharan Africa.
(Btw adoon does not equal black.
Neither are mixed race people bastards.)

[Adali]

well if Northern Asians and European are given different skin color names, Yellow and White people, to differentiate the real racial difference in terms of facial and physical difference. Why should Somalis who also share skin color with Bantus continue to be under the name skin color name, when clearly we also differ in both in terms of facial features and physical appearance.

Another argument is, why should Indians who are known in America and Europe(UK) as brown people be any different from us, they too share skin color with Bantu. There are about a 100 million Horn of Africans who look very similar, if you go to Amhar region or Tigrey region you will fit right in, if you go to Oromo or Northern Kenya again not much difference, but if you go to Nigeria or South Africa you are seen as a foreigner on the spot because of your appearance. I have no idea where you bring in culture into this discussion, I said we differ in the Face and the Body, where did you get culture from.

Here is Indians, majority of Indians are midnight jet black and yet they are known as "Brown people" we are talking about hundred of millions.


darkest form Somali can have, there are millions of Somalis who look like this but also millions who are either more brown or more light.


so why on earth are we going to confuse ourselves by calling ourselves Blacks when clearly that skin color name is known for Blacks and not us. Most Somalis are identified around the world as Somalis and not blacks, even though we are in large numbers black, so there is a need for skin color name in order to make it clear where we stand in the color spectrum Lol.

[Estarix]

Thats because Indians culturally, socially and genetically form a group which are not known and classified as black. Most indians in the south can range from yellow to almost black. Those three factors come in that stop many black indians from being classified or viewed as black.
Most Somalis range from black - brown, black again is a classification not reserved for those who are charcoal black but you can be light brown and medium brown aswell. Secondly Somalis can be extremely dark much darker than that guy you posted. Most blacks are around his skin tone anyways.

[Colonel]

Union gtfo here where's your proof that those are ONLF mujahidiin?

Who you kidding sxb you just refer to yourself as black to feel closer to Obama

[Estarix]

He probably used some cream or some next tinto to hide his predominantly yellow colour, look dude some eastern asians can have that pale - white look, but the vast majority dont have this colour and most use creams to hide their normal colour.
Most East Asians have this colour.

[LaY-D_LicK]

There are going to be people reading this thinking wtf looooooooool


For the record Somalies are Black Africans ...

[James Dahl]

No human is actually black, the same way even the palest albino is still more pink than white, the darkest Sudanese fellow from northern Kordofan is still just dark brown.

Skin color is an adaptive mutation, in a couple dozen generations, people's natural skin color will increase in melanin naturally. In a few hundred years, the descendants of African immigrants to Minnesota will be slightly paler, and European descendants in Australia will be slightly darker. Read this document for more information: http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/chem/fa ... r_2000.pdf

We have deluded ourselves into thinking that skin coloration "divides the races", but there is no such thing as the black race or the white race or the brown race, everyone is the same. There are slight regional variations in physical characteristics due to inbreeding, and our skin varies depending on what latitude our ancestors primarily lived in.

[Adali]

Nope, Asians are two groups, South Asians and Northern Asians. the North Asians including Japanese, Koreans and some Chinse are all pale white. whiles southern Asians, Vietnamese, Thailand, Indonesians etc are brownings/yellowish in color.

Japanese


If you think thats yellow you are color blind.


lets just agree to disagree, I don't mind Somalis being called black, but it is hella confusing for other people who consider black to be this:


and not this

or this

Somali boy

[Osman]

Where in this thread does it ask, what skin colors are other races , its obvious to anyone with a pair of eyes we're ethnically different from the average black-american, but the skintone is what we have in common, and is very much alike.

[union]

Somalis can look a bit different than other Africans, but Germans looks different from Poles for example but they're the same overall white race.

[LaY-D_LicK]

The way he eats that watermelon I can just tell he is Somali

[Adali]

we look a little different from Amharic, Oromo, Tigrey and even Masai(ok might have exaggerated), but we look nothing like Congolese, West Africans, South African Kikuyu, South Sudanese etc.

Somali have more in common in terms of looks with SOME Housa/Fulani and even more so with Tuareg people than the Bantus, in fact I would say the difference between a West European and a Eastern European is similar to the difference between a Somali/Horner and a Tuareg/Sahara.

Tuareg

[Thuganomics]

I use to know that old man IHUN he's dead now.

[Abdihaliim]

No human is actually black, the same way even the palest albino is still more pink than white, the darkest Sudanese fellow from northern Kordofan is still just dark brown.

Skin color is an adaptive mutation, in a couple dozen generations, people's natural skin color will increase in melanin naturally. In a few hundred years, the descendants of African immigrants to Minnesota will be slightly paler, and European descendants in Australia will be slightly darker. Read this document for more information: http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/chem/fa ... r_2000.pdf

We have deluded ourselves into thinking that skin coloration "divides the races", but there is no such thing as the black race or the white race or the brown race, everyone is the same. There are slight regional variations in physical characteristics due to inbreeding, and our skin varies depending on what latitude our ancestors primarily lived in.