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Re: Terrorist Tayyip Erdogan undermines secular constitutio
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:03 pm
by union
Somaliland is already a Muslim Sharia country the Mosque and government are not two separate groupings in Somaliland the state religion is Islam you cannot built a church a Synagogue and no one can you cannot preach Christianity in Somaliland The Grand sheikhs of Somaliland have a say in Politics in our Country heck even during the rebellion against Somalia in the 80s Sheikhs were chairmains of our SNM. Perhaps you cant read arabic but Somaliland flag says Laaa ilaaah illaha Muhammadanrasuullah which means there is no god but allah and Muhammad is his messenger. Islam is not against electing you're leaders what we are against is freedom of insulting one's religion we don't want other religions in our society we don't want atheists all that filth is not welcome. Not every society is perfect but our job is to work ourselves up on to that great level of Pure Islamism. So i will support Somaliland its people its country its Mosques the Mullahs of Somaliland. So Union what we do not want is how things are in Europe or America we want to eat only Hallaal meat we want islamic banking we want islamic universities etc
This is the first time I've heard that Somaliland is a shariah state, that's certainly not what Siilanyo tells the Western aid donors, but do tell me what part of the shariah has legalized widespread consumption of khat and the constant and pointless wars against neighboring Muslim tribes? Also can you explain the widespread corruption, the tribalism, the rampant poverty and destitution in your country? Shariah advocates say that it is the remedy to all the ills of society, but yet in shariah states we see the same problems that afflict secular societies seemingly exacerbated. Also, just to warn you, I expect someone to come in soon and declare that there is no true shariah state in the world just to contradict what you have said. Shariah supporters are constantly contradicting one another lol
Re: Terrorist Tayyip Erdogan undermines secular constitutio
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:08 pm
by Eaglehawk
Somaliland is already a Muslim Sharia country the Mosque and government are not two separate groupings
This doesn't make sense
Re: Terrorist Tayyip Erdogan undermines secular constitutio
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:11 pm
by union
It would be a positive development if Somalis united based on ideology
Secular Somalis have the upper hand, we will bomb you Islamist using the pentagons drones
Re: Terrorist Tayyip Erdogan undermines secular constitutio
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:15 pm
by union
union,
are you against having dugsi quran in other countries or just in Turkey?
I think children should be banned from attending religious schools until they are into their teenage years. Secular education should have first claim on their little immature minds, so we can indoctrinate them with the truth of evolution and the glory of Kemalism and the evils of the mullahs when they usurp political power.
Re: Terrorist Tayyip Erdogan undermines secular constitutio
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:17 pm
by Shirib
union,
are you against having dugsi quran in other countries or just in Turkey?
I think children should be banned from attending religious schools until they are into their teenage years. Secular education should have first claim on their little immature minds, so we can indoctrinate them with the truth of evolution and the glory of Kemalism and the evils of the mullahs when they usurp political power.
why do you hate Islam?
Re: Terrorist Tayyip Erdogan undermines secular constitutio
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:18 pm
by Eaglehawk
if you want a religious free society go to china because china never had a religion and it never develped into law based civilasation
Re: Terrorist Tayyip Erdogan undermines secular constitutio
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:21 pm
by union
I already live in a religion free society, the good ol' USA. The wise founders wrote the constitution to protect this country from the radical Christians, and it has turned out to be the greatest and most prosperous in the world. We need to have an establishment clause in the Somali constitution to replicate the good fortune
Re: Terrorist Tayyip Erdogan undermines secular constitutio
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:28 pm
by union
union,
are you against having dugsi quran in other countries or just in Turkey?
I think children should be banned from attending religious schools until they are into their teenage years. Secular education should have first claim on their little immature minds, so we can indoctrinate them with the truth of evolution and the glory of Kemalism and the evils of the mullahs when they usurp political power.
why do you hate Islam?
I don't hate Islam. I think Islam is a great religion when you look at its festivals, it's interesting history the culture, etc. But I do think politically Islam must be kept in control and regulated to ensure moderation and harmony. Sufi Islam is the best form of Islam, while the Salafi ideology you follow Mr. Shirib is a threat to civilized society
Re: Terrorist Tayyip Erdogan undermines secular constitutio
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:30 pm
by fighter
Erdogan
Re: Terrorist Tayyip Erdogan undermines secular constitutio
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:33 pm
by Shirib
I don't hate Islam. I think Islam is a great religion when you look at its festivals, it's interesting history the culture, etc. But I do think politically Islam must be kept in control and regulated to ensure moderation and harmony. Sufi Islam is the best form of Islam, while the Salafi ideology you follow Mr. Shirib is a threat to civilized society
A lot of harm comes from not allowing religious schools. Kids won't learn the Quran, how to pray properly, the rules of fasting, etc.
There's nothing political about dugsi's but for some reason you don't want children to get a religious education when they are most primed for learning.
Re: Terrorist Tayyip Erdogan undermines secular constitutio
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:34 pm
by daiman
It would be a positive development if Somalis united based on ideology
Secular Somalis have the upper hand, we will bomb you Islamist using the pentagons drones
If only those bombing us{sic} were secularist, alas, they are medievalist religionist bible-waving brainwashed African Christianist ……
Where do you fit here?
Better stay with the devil you know.
Re: Terrorist Tayyip Erdogan undermines secular constitutio
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:40 pm
by union
It would be a positive development if Somalis united based on ideology
Secular Somalis have the upper hand, we will bomb you Islamist using the pentagons drones
If only those bombing us{sic} were secularist, alas, they are medievalist religionist bible-waving brainwashed African Christianist ……
Where do you fit here?
Better stay with the devil you know.
Be they what they may, they are helping me defeat the Islamist in Somalia
Re: Terrorist Tayyip Erdogan undermines secular constitutio
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:45 pm
by daiman
just check out your dollars and see what it say @god bless America' how secural
Re: Terrorist Tayyip Erdogan undermines secular constitutio
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:45 pm
by Eaglehawk
I already live in a religion free society, the good ol' USA. The wise founders wrote the constitution to protect this country from the radical Christians, and it has turned out to be the greatest and most prosperous in the world. We need to have an establishment clause in the Somali constitution to replicate the good fortune
Who told you america is religion free
Because there is a separation of church and state doesn`t mean America is religion free
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness
"The wise founders wrote the constitution to protect this country from the radical Christians"
america never had problem with Christianity, America just didn`t want to pick a winner in the Christian schism
Remember when you in court you swear on the bible or quran is that religion free society
its separation between church and state and not sepraten between church and society
Re: Terrorist Tayyip Erdogan undermines secular constitutio
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:48 pm
by Xaaji_Xundjuf
Waxaan ku dhaaran karaa inuu kani dhakada sujood ba ku dhufanin.
Man, I was thinking to date you under the Somali flag....you broke my heart 