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I really don't know where to begin. Somalis in the diaspora, or at least those whom I have had the unfortunate luck to have lived with have been nothing but bunch of useless good for nothing people. The so called Somali community usually consist of old, uneducated somali men whose motive for being there is to get a check at the end of every week. They do nothing to help the struggling families. They wake up in the morning and get in the community office and discuss 'reer hebel baa bari reer hebel wasay' and numerous other useless shyt. Their whole discourses are, mostly if NOT all the time, chained in one direction and that's the direction of qabiil. They don't offer any community guidance to the strving students, no help to the new arrivers, no help to anyone whatsoever. They're happy with getting a check of $300 every friday. The common people are also as useless as the community leaders. The best of business you'll see somalis establish are xawaalad and makhaayad which are both confined to the somalis. Kan ogu fiican baa laga yaabaa inuu meel tax return ah furto, and even that's only seasonal. In an area that's highly populated by somalis(70k or above) you'll seldom meet a doctor or an engineer. It feels like all that they've left for is to collect welfare from the DES and the best amongst us, to open a coffee shop.

Most Somalis are in the west because it offers them peace and stability,not for honey and milk.

That was the group who fled to the west in the late 80s and early-mid 90s..
A large percentage of the ones coming to the west now especially the ones from the more stable regions and the middle east are indeed looking for honey, milk and precious gems.

Life in Somali is very difficulty and in most of Africa and lack of peace doesnt help their plight.

I am sure most of us would rather be here,struggling than struggling there.

It depends theytry to assist where necessary but most of the time you are on your own if all other channels are exhausted.
Furthermore those organisations survive on pretending to offer assistance thats how they are given grants by the government and other donors.some of them can be heartless and racist.

Are these Somali specific organizations?

When it comes to status, isn't it simply a "fill out a government application and wait" issue? I would assume whether or not statuses and permits are permitted depends on the government handling the application.

It sounds as if the problem lies within these so-called assistance organizations. What do they actually do? And how do they continuing receiving grants, if don't actually provide any help? Shouldn't their be feedback mechanisms determining if grants should be issued? But my guess is governments are too lazy to do that.


Pat,

It seems like governments in EU are the problem, rather than organizations that claim to provide services. Judging from your post, that is.

Somalis in the west (some of them) should be ashamed of themselves.

They don't use their opportunities. There's no reason for Somalis to have a 40% high school drop our rate in Toronto. No reason.

Sickening. The children r becoming worst off then their refugee parents.

Wallahi I have friends whose families lived pretty well in Somaliland and Djibouti who pretty much sold everything to come live in a tiny apartment in the U.S. Actually now that I think about it, I know a lot of West Africans who did the same.

They'd be considered economic migrants and although the U.S. does have greater opportunities in regards to education and employment, if you're already living well what's really the point, especially if you're having trouble getting documentation.

A lot of the West Africans I know came here with student visas and marry AAs for a green card