Hiiran administration bans Arabic writing in buisinesses

[shaab_]

So you prefer Latin-Romanised Somali instead of Arabic Somali?, Somalis have been writing in Arabic for centuries this is disgraceful

The Arabic script is crappy honestly, it's very illogical (omits vowels, too many inconsistencies etc). The Latin script is so much better for Somali.

[mody21]

fuck arabs man there isnt any love lose between the two of us.. to hiraan

[Enlightened~Sista]

You are not in charge. The Ethiopians are and they could leave any second. How are you going to prevent Al Shabaab from taking over Beled-Weyne again if you are annoying the people with retarded authoritatian laws trying to control what they use on signs in front of their private business establishment. Every single Somali store I know here in my city in the US has "halal" written in Arabic but in Beled-Weyne they won't have that right. Cockroach brains wallahi.

Dickface, you say others are dumb but your arguments are so stupid. Why on earth would a shop in Baladweyne need to have a "halal" sign?

[Enlightened~Sista]

fuck arabs man there isnt any love lose between the two of us.. to hiraan

It wasn't the Arabs who put those signs up.

[shaab_]

That is probably sensible solution but I don't get why Arabic has to be in the last at all. Hardly anything useful is published in Arabic today. There are literally 40 or 50 more useful and deserving languages to feature above Arabic on that list. Other than being the language of the Quran, what is Arabic's claim to greatness?

There's a wealth of terrorist manuals in Arabic. If you want to make cheap but effective bombs, Arabic is a must.

[TheblueNwhite]

You are not in charge. The Ethiopians are and they could leave any second. How are you going to prevent Al Shabaab from taking over Beled-Weyne again if you are annoying the people with retarded authoritatian laws trying to control what they use on signs in front of their private business establishment. Every single Somali store I know here in my city in the US has "halal" written in Arabic but in Beled-Weyne they won't have that right. Cockroach brains wallahi.

Dickface, you say others are dumb but your arguments are so stupid. Why on earth would a shop in Baladweyne need to have a "halal" sign?

Couple hrs passed and this shit still hilarous, its gotta be one of the most idiotic comments I've heard in these forums.

It's got to be the most imbecilic comment of the day.

PO, I'm afraid the whole argument of protecting the written Somali flew past you. No one is arguing about how many Faraxs speak the language, or the rising number of media outlets. The point is Somalia's official language should be preserved, nurtured and promoted by any means necessary.

[Colonel]

It's got to be the most imbecilic comment of the day.

PO, I'm afraid the whole argument of protecting the written Somali flew past you. No one is arguing about how many Faraxs speak the language, or the rising number of media outlets. The point is Somalia's official language should be preserved, nurtured and promoted by any means necessary.

Somalis have been dealing and trading with Arabs for centuries but now all of a sudden we are at risk of 'losing our language'

C'mon son...

[shaab_]

Somalis have been dealing and trading with Arabs for centuries but now all of a sudden we are at risk of 'losing our language'

C'mon son...

Most secondary schools in Somalia are now using Arabic or English as the medium of instruction. This has never happened before in Somali history.

Somalis in Somalia are totally spineless to the extent they hate their own language, they aspire to be either Arab or British/American and their whole life is built on the shame and sadness of not being born in the Arab world or the West. They are so spineless it's distasteful.

[TheblueNwhite]

It's got to be the most imbecilic comment of the day.

PO, I'm afraid the whole argument of protecting the written Somali flew past you. No one is arguing about how many Faraxs speak the language, or the rising number of media outlets. The point is Somalia's official language should be preserved, nurtured and promoted by any means necessary.

Somalis have been dealing and trading with Arabs for centuries but now all of a sudden we are at risk of 'losing our language'

C'mon son...

What has trading with Arabs have to do with preserving and promoting our language?

[Colonel]

@Shaab
'Most secondary school' kulaha, did you collect that information yourself after a thorough survey? or did the exemplary TFG provide it to you? I mean are we 5 year olds that you try to sell us this boogey man story?

Guess what, both my parents went to school in Moqdisho during the secular period and both of them learned Arabic there, they still speak it to this day. And no it wasn't an Islamic school.

Arabic has always been thought at school level whether you like it or not. Like I said, we've been dealing with the Arabs for centuries we aren't all of a sudden going adopt their language over ours.

What has trading with Arabs have to do with preserving and promoting our language?

Promoting our language? are you hearing yourself right now? Please tell me how Arabic is all of a sudden taking over the Somali language in Somalia.

[shaab_]

'Most secondary schools' kulaha, did you collect that information yourself after a thorough survey? or did the exemplary TFG provide it to you? I mean are we 5 year olds that you try to sell us this boogey man story?

Have you ever been to Somalia recently? The vast majority of secondary schools there pretty much only use Arabic or English textbooks. They do not use Somali textbooks at all since they haven't been updated for nearly 20 years since the collapse of the last effective government.

The Somali language is severely literature deprived. It's really shameful how few books are published in Somali.

[SultanOrder]

Theblunewhite let me make clear my argument. Afsoomaali (written) lacks the plethora of textual knowledge needed to be taught in schools. It also isn't a language that most of the world uses in international communication. Therefore, it is a necessity for English and Arabic (both being international languages) being mediums of higher learning. Afsoomaali being just a subject is no different than here in America where Language Arts (english) being a subject in elementary to highschool, and then a major in College. Somalis are still oral people, mostly illiterate, so if you are concerned about poems and other literature being safeguarded, they are still passed orally. This argument was designed to attack your example of schools not being taught in afsoomali.
Also, to clearly illustrate that written Somali is actually the medium of communication, I used Somali-news sites as a clear indication that your fears of afsoomaali written being pushed aside is unfounded.

Also, Somali written language is taught in primary education in Somalia, Somaliland, Kilinka 5aad.

Arabic is an Official Language of Somalia. So protecting Somalia's Official languages include Arabic.

So if Somali spoken language is not in danger, and Somali written language is not in danger. What is it you are arguing for? If it is something as simple as supporting the Hiiraan administration then just keep it that simple.

Now do you support a nation wide referendum that afsoomaali is the only written language used in shops and businesses? Or do you only support it in Hiiraan? Keep in mind this is a hypothetical referendum, regardless of it's feasibility, implementation. and likeliness of it passing or even making it to a referendum.

[TheblueNwhite]

It's like arguing with a wall.

You only have to read the written Somali in the media to realize the state of the Somali language. Try to get an average farax or xaliimo (in or out of the country) to name random animals in Af Somali or name 4 Somali authors or even recite a Somali poem.

I don't think you understand the importance of preserving the Somali language, if you did you would know that preserving the language means protecting the Somali identity; heritage and culture.

[shaab_]

Afsoomaali (written) lacks the plethora of textual knowledge needed to be taught in schools.

This isn't true. The Somali Qaamuus contains over 50,000 words, this is more than enough to cover even academic topics. New scientific terminology can simply be made up from compound words, the Germans and Japanese do this instead of borrowing from English. The problem is that Somalis are simply just too lazy to do this.

[TheblueNwhite]

Somali is the official language in Somalia.