Sufisim is not a sect

[SultanOrder]

It is wrong to say that sufi's are a sect as they have no specific fiqh or madhab but either follow the madhabs of the four orthodox schools of Sunni's (Shafi, Malaki, Hanbali, Hanafi), nor do they have a particular aqida but follow one of the two Orthodox Sunni's (Ashari, Maturudi). Now there are different schools of Sufism known as tariqas (Ba'alawi, Qadariyya, Salaxiya, Naqshibandi, Shadhili, Tijani etc), but that does not signify any change in the muslims Islamic Sharia or Aqida.

So how can they be conisdered a new sect or a particular sect other than Sunni?

[InaTaKar]

Back Home the only suufi i know , mowlidka digriga xaafada imaan jireen. Nice people. Everyone cooke nice food, wadaada digrii alot... very cool.
Fantastic to watch and listen...

[BlackVelvet]

Do not talk about Suufism with Wahabis and/or Salafis unless of course you want your head bitten off.

[SultanOrder]

Do not talk about Suufism with Wahabis and/or Salafis unless of course you want your head bitten off.

I just want to clear up this simple misconception that "Sufi's" have their own sect as oppossed regular sunni muslims. If Wahhabi/Salafis want to distinguish Sufis as a sect then they themselves become causes of sectarianism.

[BlackVelvet]

You give something a name to distinguish it from the rest and then you say it's not a sect, how does that work?

[Alchemist]

Do not talk about Suufism with Wahabis and/or Salafis unless of course you want your head bitten off.

Lol.

[SultanOrder]

You give something a name to distinguish it from the rest and then you say it's not a sect, how does that work?

A sect in Islam is when you become distinguishable from one another in terms of Sharia, like how Sunni's and Shi'a don't have the same schools of Jurisprudence, and/or Theology Aqida. When you have these fundamental differences than you can be considered different sects. For example if you look at Zayadi Shi'as they have very similar Sharia with Sunni's especially Shafi'i's, but they have different Aqida or theology to Sunni's classifying them as a different Sect.
Sufi's is used to distinguish from people who have not taken a certain path of achieving an end result using a specific method. It is like using the terms of moderate, extreme, lax muslim, these terms don't denote differences of beliefs but how they adhere to these same beliefs. I hope that I made it clear for you.

[Keyblade]

I love the look on people's faces when you tell them you can be a Sufi and a Sunni at the same time. What's up with the misinformation though?

[DR-YALAXOOW]

It is wrong to say that sufi's are a sect as they have no specific fiqh or madhab but either follow the madhabs of the four orthodox schools of Sunni's (Shafi, Malaki, Hanbali, Hanafi), nor do they have a particular aqida but follow one of the two Orthodox Sunni's (Ashari, Maturudi). Now

Not true Suufiya(ahlu sunnah waljamaca) are followers of
Shaaficiya madhab. and sheikh Al Ashcari raxmatu allah was Shaafici fqthi scholar.
Actually its wahaabiya which rejects all 4 madhabs . Wahaabis they fellow 2 men which ahlu sunnah considers Heritecs one is ibthaymiyah and later mr abdwahab.
And today wahaabiis prefer to be hanbali madhab wich was mine madhab
before abdulwahab

[BlackVelvet]

You give something a name to distinguish it from the rest and then you say it's not a sect, how does that work?

A sect in Islam is when you become distinguishable from one another in terms of Sharia, like how Sunni's and Shi'a don't have the same schools of Jurisprudence, and/or Theology Aqida. When you have these fundamental differences than you can be considered different sects. For example if you look at Zayadi Shi'as they have very similar Sharia with Sunni's especially Shafi'i's, but they have different Aqida or theology to Sunni's classifying them as a different Sect.
Sufi's is used to distinguish from people who have not taken a certain path of achieving an end result using a specific method. It is like using the terms of moderate, extreme, lax muslim, these terms don't denote differences of beliefs but how they adhere to these same beliefs. I hope that I made it clear for you.

Where do Suufis lie?


ps LOL this is when the Wahabi/Salafi says there is no such thing, you either do it the right way or you are doing it the wrong way

[eliteSomali]

Horta is it a must that you ascribe to one of those sects in order to be a complete muslim? if not what's the point? live by the quran and the sunah of the prophet s.a.w and that should be it.

[SultanOrder]

It is wrong to say that sufi's are a sect as they have no specific fiqh or madhab but either follow the madhabs of the four orthodox schools of Sunni's (Shafi, Malaki, Hanbali, Hanafi), nor do they have a particular aqida but follow one of the two Orthodox Sunni's (Ashari, Maturudi). Now

Not true Suufiya(ahlu sunnah waljamaca) are followers of
Shaaficiya madhab. and sheikh Al Ashcari raxmatu allah was Shaafici fqthi scholar.
Actually its wahaabiya which rejects all 4 madhabs . Wahaabis they fellow 2 men which ahlu sunnah considers Heritecs one is ibthaymiyah and later mr abdwahab.
And today wahaabiis prefer to be hanbali madhab wich was mine madhab
before abdulwahab

Your just confused and making people confused. Sufi and Ahlul sunnah Wal'Jama are not interchangeable terms. Shaykh Abdul-Qadr Al Jaylani was himself a Hanbali Scholar.

[Executive]

You give something a name to distinguish it from the rest and then you say it's not a sect, how does that work?

[SultanOrder]

BV by original definition, one wasn't a "sufi" until they showed the best characteristics that a muslim could have. The sought out character traits that Nabi Muhammad scw had in the most excellent forms both inward and outward which are taqwa (god-fearness), rahma (mercy), tawakullah (trust in allah), honesty, trust, love of muslims, etc, and they have purified themselves of the negative traits a muslim can have such as jealousy, greed, talking bad of muslims, pride, arrogance etc. They would also only be considered "sufi" if they held strict adherence to the Shariah, and excelled in worship, constant rememberance of God, and great love of Nabi Muhammad scw.

Now the fact that a term is needed to describe such muslims says more about us than it does about "sufi" or "sufism". But it is not also wrong to use terms to distinguish muslims because Allah himself has divided the muslims into "Mu'mins" (true believers), and "Munafiqs" (hypocrites), so the term muslim encompasses someone who has taken the shahada even if he inwardly rejects it. So I don't see it as a strong argument to reject all terms.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

Even people whit limited Aqoon in islam knowst that Ahu sunnah waljamaaca are also know
n as Suufiya. and also Suufiya are fellowers of shaaficiya.
Imaam shaafici fiqhi is the suufiya mine madhab. and as always happen wahaabis lie . sh abdqadir was shaafici