Sufisim is not a sect

[Alphanumeric]

It's obvious insecurities that lead people to bash others. The accepted habit of insulting Salafis on this site is a laugh.

It is wrong to say that sufi's are a sect as they have no specific fiqh or madhab but either follow the madhabs of the four orthodox schools of Sunni's (Shafi, Malaki, Hanbali, Hanafi), nor do they have a particular aqida but follow one of the two Orthodox Sunni's (Ashari, Maturudi). Now there are different schools of Sufism known as tariqas (Ba'alawi, Qadariyya, Salaxiya, Naqshibandi, Shadhili, Tijani etc), but that does not signify any change in the muslims Islamic Sharia or Aqida.

So how can they be conisdered a new sect or a particular sect other than Sunni?

So, what are the differences between these groups if they all believe the same things. Do tell.

[fighter]

Alpha, are you a Salafi

[Alphanumeric]

When it comes to what I believe, I try to be.

[Enlightened~Sista]

When it comes to what I believe, I try to be.

hmmmmmmmmm

[fighter]

Interesting Alpha. Very interesting.

[SultanOrder]

Even people whit limited Aqoon in islam knowst that Ahu sunnah waljamaaca are also know
n as Suufiya. and also Suufiya are fellowers of shaaficiya.
Imaam shaafici fiqhi is the suufiya mine madhab. and as always happen wahaabis lie . sh abdqadir was shaafici

Dr. Yalaxox, adeer your confusing specific geopolitical condition in Somalia with the long history of Islam. In Somalia, a group of Somalis came together based on religious similarities against Alshabab. They called themselves Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jama to signify their orthodox against what they saw as a heretical military movement out to destroy them. They happened to be Sufi's and since Somalia is predominantly Shafi, they were Sufis and shafi.

Ahlul sunnah Wal'jama are all muslims who are of either of the four madhabs. Now in using your reasoning, all other followers of madhabs other than shafi are not sufi's.

Also, look it up, Shaykh Abdul qadir al Jaylani was a great Hanbali madhab, and Ibn Taymiya who is also Hanbali was a Qadiriyya Sufi, and considered Shaykh Jaylani as his Shaykh.

[Khalid Ali]

One thing i really love about the Sufis is their unbreakable love for Prophet Muhammad ibn cabdullah csw and that of the Ahli bait as Muslims that should always be encouraged, and i love listening to Nabi Amaan the loud Dikir, Sufis spread Islam all across the world wa ahlu jannoh, there are here there people who make mistakes and ask forgiveness or the blessings of dead sheikhs or ask them to protect them which is wrong ,but we can only ask allah that he will forgive them and may allah forgive us all because we all need the guidance of allah may allah lead us to the right path.

Allahu akbar walilahil xamd

[Enlightened~Sista]

One thing i really love about the Sufis is their unbreakable love for Prophet Muhammad ibn cabdullah csw and that of the Ahli bait as Muslims that should always be encouraged, and i love listening to Nabi Amaan the loud Dikir, Sufis spread Islam all across the world wa ahlu jannoh, there are here there people who make mistakes and ask forgiveness or the blessings of dead sheikhs or ask them to protect them which is wrong ,but we can only ask allah that he will forgive them and may allah forgive us all because we all need the guidance of allah may allah lead us to the right path.

Allahu akbar walilahil xamd

[Alphanumeric]

When it comes to what I believe, I try to be.

hmmmmmmmmm

Interesting Alpha. Very interesting.

[BlackVelvet]

When it comes to what I believe, I try to be.

hmmmmmmmmm

Interesting Alpha. Very interesting.

[SultanOrder]

It's obvious insecurities that lead people to bash others. The accepted habit of insulting Salafis on this site is a laugh.

It is wrong to say that sufi's are a sect as they have no specific fiqh or madhab but either follow the madhabs of the four orthodox schools of Sunni's (Shafi, Malaki, Hanbali, Hanafi), nor do they have a particular aqida but follow one of the two Orthodox Sunni's (Ashari, Maturudi). Now there are different schools of Sufism known as tariqas (Ba'alawi, Qadariyya, Salaxiya, Naqshibandi, Shadhili, Tijani etc), but that does not signify any change in the muslims Islamic Sharia or Aqida.

So how can they be conisdered a new sect or a particular sect other than Sunni?

So, what are the differences between these groups if they all believe the same things. Do tell.

In reality they all share a common silsilad (chain) of transmission, where they meet up sooner or later in this chain of Shaykhs or Masters in those particular Tariqas. Their differences are methodological but not theology or jurisprudence.

[SultanOrder]

Interesting Alpha. Very interesting.

Alpha most likely means it in the sense of Salafi (predecessors) like the first three generation but identifying himself as what is generally known as present day salafis.

[Alphanumeric]

It's obvious insecurities that lead people to bash others. The accepted habit of insulting Salafis on this site is a laugh.

It is wrong to say that sufi's are a sect as they have no specific fiqh or madhab but either follow the madhabs of the four orthodox schools of Sunni's (Shafi, Malaki, Hanbali, Hanafi), nor do they have a particular aqida but follow one of the two Orthodox Sunni's (Ashari, Maturudi). Now there are different schools of Sufism known as tariqas (Ba'alawi, Qadariyya, Salaxiya, Naqshibandi, Shadhili, Tijani etc), but that does not signify any change in the muslims Islamic Sharia or Aqida.

So how can they be conisdered a new sect or a particular sect other than Sunni?

So, what are the differences between these groups if they all believe the same things. Do tell.

In reality they all share a common silsilad (chain) of transmission, where they meet up sooner or later in this chain of Shaykhs or Masters in those particular Tariqas. Their differences are methodological but not theology or jurisprudence.

Do Naqshabandis believe in the Qadr of Allah?

[fighter]

There is no such thing as Salafis today. The only "Salafs" were those who were the direct followers and were the companions of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Those original companions and followers had the prophet (pbuh) himself for guidance. These present day Salafis, who do they have today? They have no one. They interpret things the way they see fit. They are angry people who call anyone they disagree with a kafir.

People should only be taking their information from the Quran and the "very strong" hadiths. No one else with their own interpretations.

[Alphanumeric]

There is no such thing as Salafis today. The only "Salafs" were those who were the direct followers and were the companions of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Those original companions and followers had the prophet (pbuh) himself for guidance. These present day Salafis, who do they have today? They have no one. They interpret things the way they see fit. They are angry people who call anyone they disagree with a kafir.

People should only be taking their information from the Quran and the "very strong" hadiths. No one else with their own interpretations.

You're usually a smart guy that offers intelligent conversation.