Ssomalia never had a better friend then Reagan and obama

[Eaglehawk]

Sabti, July 21, 2012 (HOL) — Madaxweynaha Mareykanka, Barack Obama ayaa mamnuucay dhoofinta dhuxusha Soomaaliya, taasoo uu sheegay inay dhaqaale ka hesho Xarakada Al-shabaab oo dagaal kula jirta DKMG ah iyo AMISOM, isagoo sidoo kale sheegay in cunno-qabteyn la saari doono cid walba oo ku lug yeelata musuq-maasuqa dhaqaalaha loogu deeqo Soomaaliya iyo kuwa askareeya caruurta.

Warsaxaafadeed kasoo baxay wasaaradda arrimaha dibadda ee Mareykanka ayaa lagu sheegay in xayiraadda dhoofka dhuxusha Soomaaliya ay xoojinayso qaraarkii uu horay u meel-mariyay golaha ammaanka ee Qaramada Midoobay kaasoo lagu mamnuucay dhoofka dhuxusha Soomaaliya.

"Manuucidda dhoofka dhuxusha Soomaaliya waa mid cadaadis saaraysa Al-shabaab oo dhaqaale badan ka hela dhoofinta dhuxusha," ayay tiri Victoria Nuland oo ah afhayeenad u hadashay wasaaradda arrimaha dibadda ee Mareykanka. "Dhuxusha ayaa waxay dhibaato ku haysaa deegaanka, waana mid sii xumaysa dhibaatooyinka bani'aadamnimo ee Soomaaliya muddada dheer ka taagan."

Warbixinta ayaa lagu sheegay in Al-shabaab oo ku dhawaaqday billowgii sannadkan inay ku biirtay Al-Qaacida inay khatar weyn ku hayso ammaanka, nabadda, inay Soomaaliya xasillooni kusoo laabato iyo iyadoo is-hortaagtay in gargaarka deg-deg lagu gaarsiiyo dadka u baahan.

Sidoo kale, warbixintan oo lasoo saaray Jimcihii shalay ayaa lagu sheegay in cunno-qabteyn la saari doono cid walba oo ku lug yeelata musuqmaasuqa gargaar loogu talogalay Soomaalida iyo kuwa carruurta askar ka dhigta.

Xarakada Al-shabaab ayay warbixintu sheegay in dhaqalaaha ugu badan ee ay ku dagaalanto ay ka hesho dhoofka dhuxusha, taasoo ka baxda dekedaha ku yaalla Koonfurta Soomaaliya oo ay iyadu maamusha, iyadoo dhuxushaas loo iib-geeyo dalalka Khaliijka Carabta oo ay ku jiraan Yemen, Sucuudiga iyo Imaaraadka Carabta.

Dowladda Soomaaliya oo xilligeedu ku eg-yahay bisha soo socota ee Ogoosto ayaa tan iyo markii la dhisay sannadkii 2004 waxay awoodi wayday inay xasillooni kusoo celiso Soomaaliya ama ay awooddeeda ku baahiso dalka oo dhan.

Ugu dambeyn, warbixinta ayaa lagu sheegay in Mareykanka uu kala shaqeyn doono Soomaaliya, dalalka gobolka iyo beesha caalamka sidii loo cabsi-gelin lahaa kuwa khatarta ku ah ammaanka, nabadgalyada iyo deggenaashaha Soomaaliya.

[luis1]

Reagan was a friend of Siad Barre but his military aid was not enough to defeat Ethiopia.

The problem between Somalia and EE.UU began in 1977 when James Carter betrayed Siad Barre and Soviet Union with its allies beaten Somali Army.

[Eaglehawk]

i am not great fan of mr obama`s not so clearly defined policies but I have to give it to him he might have failed in Afghanistan, middle east and Europe but he succeeded in horn of Africa and south east Asia

I know mr obama is constrained by first term and he is willing to be more proactive in his second term but

Of the 42 men who served as president before the current incumbent, only 15 won two consecutive elections.

[Eaglehawk]

Reagan was a friend of Siad Barre but his military aid was not enough to defeat Ethiopia.

The problem between Somalia and EE.UU began in 1977 when James Carter betrayed Siad Barre and Soviet Union with its allies beaten Somali Army.

this is 84 do we look defeated

[luis1]

This is the opinion of Siad Barre about Ogaden War in 1978:

I have an interesting video.

Check out the opinion of Siad Barre after Ogaden War:

Siad Barre says:Somalia can not fight with the Soviet Union or neither the Warsaw Pact,Somalia can not afford that.

0:17-0:24

Poor Somalia can not fight with the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact

Siad Barre says Somalia can not figth with Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact,the answer is very clear.

[Thuganomics]

This luis guy and the ogaden war annoying as fuck.Give it a rest man.Who the fuck cares who won

[gobdoon]

I am not sure if what Obama is doing is from the heart , it is not whole hearted and just want to stop Alshabab benefitting rather than the desrtification this causes in the region and it's effect that shoyld be ultimate motive saving the environment.

[Eaglehawk]

This luis guy and the ogaden war annoying as fuck.Give it a rest man.Who the fuck cares who won

the guy filled my inbox with " proof to me somalia won the war, what are your sources"

I gave him his sources

book

77: cirka iyo dhulka maha uu dexeeya
prof adan hassan yarrow


dagaalki somalia iyo ethiopia
by general guleed warsame "ciyaalwase"

post colonial wars, the Ethiopian Somali war of 1977
DR berhanu gebrselassie tesfaye

Getting Somalia Wrong?: Faith, War and Hope in a Shattered State
Mary Jane Harper ( BBC reporter)

I found these books in germany Baden-Württemberg at the town Tubingen
I found out that some of the somali embassy archive papers and general somali ethiopia history are stored there
remember some historical east german archieves are moved to this place
for some reason they have not digitalized yet

Please,May you answer my question?

I want to know who won Ogaden War?

Please,for God,help me.

You say Somalia defeated Ethiopia but Somalia was pushed back by Soviet Union and allies.

Help me to solve this doubt.

Why do not you answer this simple question?

Is to much to ask.

I do not want to bother you.

I only want to know your opinion about Who won Ogaden War.

You wrote:

Somalia defeated Ethiopia but Somalia was pushed back by Soviet Union and allies.

What do the books of the Somali Generals you sent to me say about Ogaden War outcome?

May you help me with this problem?

Help me.

Please,May you answer my question?

I want to know who won Ogaden War?

Please,for God,help me.

You say Somalia defeated Ethiopia but Somalia was pushed back by Soviet Union and allies.

Help me to solve this doubt.

Why do not you answer this simple question?

Is to much to ask.

everybody knows somalia didn`t lose the ogaden war only luis thinks somalia lost, he comes here with non academic sources like mary harper of the bbc who wrote a non sourced book in other words that book his her opinion

somalia was pushed back by soviet union and the barking little dog cuba was the sound track to the soviet somali movie

[luis1]

77: cirka iyo dhulka maha uu dexeeya
prof adan hassan yarrow


dagaalki somalia iyo ethiopia
by general guleed warsame "ciyaalwase"

post colonial wars, the Ethiopian Somali war of 1977
DR berhanu gebrselassie tesfaye

Getting Somalia Wrong?: Faith, War and Hope in a Shattered State
Mary Jane Harper ( BBC reporter)

I dont know these sources but you can show me what they say about Ogaden War,tell me what they wrote about Ogaden War.
I do not understand somali,so the obvious thing you must do is translate to english the opinion of those authors(hassan yarrow,berhanu gebrselassie tesfaye and guleed warsame "ciyaalwase)

everybody knows somalia didn`t lose the ogaden war only luis thinks somalia lost, he comes here with non academic sources like mary harper of the bbc who wrote a non sourced book in other words that book his her opinion

Somalia did not lose the war,then explain me why all somali and western authors say Somalia lost the war.

comes here with non academic sources like mary harper of the bbc who wrote a non sourced book in other words that book his her opinion

somalia was pushed back by soviet union and the barking little dog cuba was the sound track to the soviet somali movie

What are you talking about?.

You were the first one who talks about Mary Harper,I just read the book of Mary Harper and she says Somalia was defeated by Ethiopia.

I have a video of Siad Barre and he says:

Siad Barre says:Somalia can not fight with the Soviet Union or neither the Warsaw Pact,Somalia can not afford that.

0:17-0:24

Is this a victory?
Is this a victory?

Siad Barre is accepting Somalia CAN NOT FIGHT WITH THE SOVIET UNION AND WARSAW PACT.You can believe what you want but the reality is Siad Barre is accepting Somali Army is no match to Soviet Union and allies.

Translate to english the sources which say Somalia "won" Ogaden War and defeated Soviet Union,Cuba and Ethiopia.

[TeAmo]

luis your an annoying obsessed psycho. Why are you obsessed with the Ogaden war? It has nothing to do with you and it happened long time ago. There are more interesting wars that happened in history if your bored go and research them.

[jalaaludin5]

Is this Luis guy, ethiopian?

[luis1]

Because I can not understand that there are still somalis who can not believe Somalia lost the war.

I have shown many somali and western sources here,all the sources say Somalia lost the war but there are people without sources or information about Ogaden War and they still insist Somalia won the war.

EagleHawk wrote this:

the ethiopiasn could not have provided the military organisation to destroy the somali troops in a such a short time, even with our help
petr chaplygin, soviet militrary mission ethiopia

He tried to cheat us,Why do I have this opinion?

Let me show you what Chaplygin,a soviet adviser says about Cuban troops in Ogaden War.

Interview: Petr Chaplygin, Soviet Military Mission, Ethiopia

"The Cuban troops in Ethiopia played a very important role. The

Ethiopians couldn't have provided the military organization to destroy the

Somali troops in such a short period of time, even with our help."

As you can see EagleHawk is ignoring the Cuban importance in Somalia defeat,he only wrote the part of the article who likes him but he did not mention Cuban role,this role according Chaplygin was very important.

Why did not Eaglehawk talk about that role?

He tries to hide the truth but He does not know that I have many sources about Ogaden War.

Let me show you the video and the opinion of Chaplygin:

4:48-5:19

[jalaaludin5]

Because I can not understand that there are still somalis who can not believe Somalia lost the war.

And been an obsessive little fart about the Ogaden war will not help you understand.

lol

[luis1]

I am a Cuban man who lives in Lima,Peru.

Listen this video EagleHawk

Is Siad Barre wrong about Ogaden War outcome?

Siad Barre: Somalia can not fight with the Soviet Union or neither the Warsaw Pact,Somalia can not afford that

0:16-0:24

[luis1]

And been an obsessive little fart about the Ogaden war will not help you understand

I just say if Somalia won the Ogaden War.

Why can not I find sources(book and articles) about such victory?

All the Somali authors:

Abdi Ismail Samatar
Said Samatar
Ahmed Samatar
Nurrudin Farah( a famous novelist)
Jama Mohamed Ghalib
Hussein Ali Dualeh
AliK K Galaydh
Abdullahi Ahmed Yusuf(leader of SSDF and somali warlord)

All these somali authors and many more say Somalia was defeated by Soviet Union and Cuba.

Could be possible all these authors are wrong about Ogaden War outcome?