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Re: Grandpakhalif Al-Kathabb (the liar)

Postby ZubeirAwal » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:50 pm

Wheres the tusbax at yo I don't see it.

Look at those men making dua on top of the prophet (saw) so called belongings :russ: Allahu alam if they rly are his belonging but seriously making dua on top of them :Puhlease:
when the prophet died and the sahaba were sick, Aisha (RA) brought his khamis and put it in water, she squeezed the water into a cup and they were healed.

It is well known the prophets relics, saliva, hair, were collected, he is the greatest creation allah has created.

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Re: Grandpakhalif Al-Kathabb (the liar)

Postby TeAmo » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:52 pm

Wheres the tusbax at yo I don't see it.

Look at those men making dua on top of the prophet (saw) so called belongings :russ: Allahu alam if they rly are his belonging but seriously making dua on top of them :Puhlease:
when the prophet died and the sahaba were sick, Aisha (RA) brought his khamis and put it in water, she squeezed the water into a cup and they were healed.

It is well known the prophets relics, saliva, hair, were collected, he is the greatest creation allah has created.
So are you telling me they drank water squeezed out from his khamis? :russ: :russ: :russ:

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Re: Grandpakhalif Al-Kathabb (the liar)

Postby grandpakhalif » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:53 pm

Wheres the tusbax at yo I don't see it.

Look at those men making dua on top of the prophet (saw) so called belongings :russ: Allahu alam if they rly are his belonging but seriously making dua on top of them :Puhlease:
when the prophet died and the sahaba were sick, Aisha (RA) brought his khamis and put it in water, she squeezed the water into a cup and they were healed.

It is well known the prophets relics, saliva, hair, were collected, he is the greatest creation allah has created.

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Re: Grandpakhalif Al-Kathabb (the liar)

Postby ZubeirAwal » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:00 pm

^ Irrelevant.
So are you telling me they drank water squeezed out from his khamis? :russ: :russ: :russ:
You think this is something to joke of?, yes they did, infact the sahaba were healed many times from the body of the prophet


"Asma sent me to Abdullah ibn Umar saying, 'The news has reached me that you prohibit the use of three things: the striped robe, saddle cloth made of red silk, and fasting the whole month of Rajab. 'Abd Allah said to me, 'So far as what you say about fasting in the month of Rajab, how about one who observes continuous fasting? And so far as what you say about the striped garment, I heard Umar ibn al-Khattab say that he had heard from Allah's Messenger, "He who wears a silk garment, has no share for him (in the Hereafter)." And I am afraid that stripes were part of it. And so far as the red saddle cloth is concerned, here is Abd Allah's saddle cloth [=his] and it is red.' I went back to Asma and informed her, so she said, 'Here is the cloak (jubba) of Allah's Messenger,' and she brought out to me that cloak made of Persian cloth with a hem of (silk) brocade, and its sleeves bordered with (silk) brocade, and said, 'This was Allah's Messenger's cloak with Aisha until she died, then I got possession of it. The Apostle of Allah used to wear it, and we washed it for the sick so that they could seek cure thereby.'
Muslim relates this in the first chapter of the book of clothing.
Nawawi comments: "In this hadith is a proof that it is recommended to seek blessings through the relics of the righteous and their clothes
( wa fi hadha al-hadith dalil ala istihbab al-tabarruk bi aathar al-salihin wa thiyabihim)." [Sharh Sahih Muslim (Book 37 Chapter 2 #10).]


Now what do you say? the hadith is daeef?

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Re: Grandpakhalif Al-Kathabb (the liar)

Postby Arabmann » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:00 pm

teamo these are the belongings of the prophet, do you see the tusbax shaydaamadyahay

wallahi dadkan only follow what sheikh hebelaayo said nothing else

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You copied it from a blog, not an official site:

http://islammircals.blogspot.com/2012/0 ... aying.html

It isn't a credible source. I can make 100 blogs, post a picture in each one and claim it's the authentic tusbax of an Islamic figure.

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Re: Grandpakhalif Al-Kathabb (the liar)

Postby ZubeirAwal » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:01 pm

^ its from the topkapi palace , stop turning everything i post into a debate.

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Re: Grandpakhalif Al-Kathabb (the liar)

Postby grandpakhalif » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:05 pm

crazy sufis claiming to get knowledge from allah



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Re: Grandpakhalif Al-Kathabb (the liar)

Postby ZubeirAwal » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:06 pm

Grandpa, why didn't the great shuyukh of the past critizise the tassawuf? spirituallity of the deen? and Allah gives knowledge, nur, guidance to those whom he wills.


as for the tusbax

The position of Wahhabis that using prayer beads is a bida is a bid`a in itself. All the schools of Sunni Islam allow it . The greatest hadith experts, including giants like Imam al-Nawawi, Imam Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, Imam Badr al-Din al-`Ayni, and others all explicitly permitted the use of prayer beads. Same with great Qur’anic exegetes .If these people did not understand the Qur’an and Sunna, then who did?

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Re: Grandpakhalif Al-Kathabb (the liar)

Postby grandpakhalif » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:08 pm

tusbax is bidcah man, the prophet never used to do it. are you better than him? subahnallah just follow and obey.

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Re: Grandpakhalif Al-Kathabb (the liar)

Postby ZubeirAwal » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:12 pm

tusbax is bidcah man, the prophet never used to do it. are you better than him? subahnallah just follow and obey.
No difference in using your fingers and using beads, beads actually help you become more accurate, both are simmilar, and have no direct differences.

You salafis think your smarter and greater then the golden age shuyukh of islam
Allah says in His Holy Book to His Holy Prophet, "Remind people, for reminding benefits them." The reminder of Muslims has various forms, public and private. A public form of this reminder is the adhan. The masbaha or sibha or tasbih, or prayer-beads, has had since the earliest Companions the function of a private reminder. It is for that reason that the tasbih was called by them mudhakkir or mudhakkira -- "reminder," and there is a narration traced to the Prophet whereby he said: ni`ma al-mudhakkir al-sibha: "What a good reminder are the prayer-beads!" Shawkani narrates it from `Ali ibn Abi Talib as evidence for the usefulness of prayer-beads in Nayl al-awtar (2:317) from Daylami's narration in Musnad al-firdaws with his chain, and Suyuti cites it in his fatwa on prayer-beads in al-Hawi li al-fatawi (2:38).

The statement propagated nowadays by "Salafis" whereby counting dhikr on beads is an innovation, is undoubtedly false. The use of beads for counting dhikr is definitely established as a practice allowed by the Prophet and a Sunna of the Companions. This is proven by the sahih hadith of Sa`d ibn Abi Waqqas, who related that the Prophet once saw a woman using some datestones or pebbles (nawan aw hasan), and did not prohibit her to use them.

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Re: Grandpakhalif Al-Kathabb (the liar)

Postby Arabmann » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:17 pm

^ its from the topkapi palace , stop turning everything i post into a debate.
It isn't on their website, Google Image, any other site and neither Google search has results proving your claim. It is only on your blog.

Abokor, if you unintentionally made a mistake, please be careful about posting such a stuff in the future.


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