Ahlusuna Philosophy (Sufism)

[waryaa]

I have been praying Juma with these folks for a couple of weeks now and they are much different than other mosques I've seen before. The whole Juma sermon revolves on things that had allegedly happened way after as-haba. Very important dreams by some good ppl, talking animals, ashraf (chosen ppl), ppl snapping their fingers to make gold out of thin air, some past sheiks like Sheik Abdulkadir whom I intend to know more about, taken as higher than others. As the imam talks about men who again allegedly talked to lions, etc, ppl are being murdered just outside of the mosque. No reference to things that are important in today's life like how it is haram to kill another person, what will happen to you if you involve in murder, etc.

I am just wondering if other Ahlusuna Mosques are like this.

[Hyperactive]

waryaa, those sound suufi masjid.

[waryaa]

hyper, yes, sufi = ahlusuna in somalia.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Once i went to sufi mosque, they do weird stuff like singing before adhan and after finishing salat they say together salawat.
Since then never went back.
Iam used to salafi mosques, so far the best

[Hyperactive]

hyper, yes, sufi = ahlusuna in somalia.

lol really? somali every thing is opposite. ahlul sunna wal jama'a as i know and suufi are two opposite groups and my neck of wood hate each other.

[waryaa]

hyper, somali islamo-politics 101: ahlusuna = sufi = qadiriya sect. They picked the name when shababs started digging graves of revered past-timers.

hutu, I kinda like these folks - very laid back

[Somaliman50]

sali calaa nebi

[Hyperactive]

ooh so is new terms. thank you cause since this new president elected (they are happy cause they think he is islamist and somalis choice him , love of islam.lol) ive been stopped in my campus asking what kind of islamist, is he akhwani,shababist, modern etc. and my answer , i will get that infos and let you know.lol

[Saraxnow]

Like you said, in Somalia is Ahlu Sunnah=Sufia with no distinction made.

[TheblueNwhite]

Weird ppl.

The funniest jumca prayer I went to was a month ago in London. The Imam was talking about Khat and its negative affects in the Somali community. After prayer my cousin pointed to two niccas sitting on the front row who were nodding in agreement on the Imam's qudbah and said they were known heavy khat addicts. One of them actually works in the next door marfish. the nerve of some ppl.

[Murax]

Somalia used to be 90% suufi and today Mashallah most have sound caqeeda. Whats important is educating them and giving them dacwa not making takfiir on them and fighting them. A lot of the actions they due is Kufr, yet according to manhaj ahlu sunnah You cannot call them kuffar until certain conditions have been met. Did they do it out of ignorance? Was the evidence established upon them? etc. Again most of Somalis were sufi, but through education most of them left it. Sh Muqbil RH a famous Yemenis scholar when He came to His village in Sa'dah to teach since most of the people there were Shi'ah His first lecture was on the merits of Ahlu Bait. Later this place became all people of the Sunnah.




Warya,

As I understand it Central Somalia was always a diehard hotbed for sufis. In 2007 when Shabab came guns blazing and tried to take over thats when they started their 'ahlu sunnah' group.

[Arabmann]

Is there a video of their sermon on YT?

[AMee]

maybe u pray on a some ramdom alhlusunah masjid all i know and i agree all ahlu sunah masjid i have seen in london they good and some of the imam talk history sometimes
all i m fed up with the salafis masjid and salafi people who ever they be are full of shit with their short surwalo and niqab ladies and full of crab man i will pray in any masjid expact they akhi and wahabis and salafis masjid is sick man

[*Nobleman*]

Somalia used to be 90% suufi and today Mashallah most have sound caqeeda. Whats important is educating them and giving them dacwa not making takfiir on them and fighting them. A lot of the actions they due is Kufr, yet according to manhaj ahlu sunnah You cannot call them kuffar until certain conditions have been met. Did they do it out of ignorance? Was the evidence established upon them? etc. Again most of Somalis were sufi, but through education most of them left it. Sh Muqbil RH a famous Yemenis scholar when He came to His village in Sa'dah to teach since most of the people there were Shi'ah His first lecture was on the merits of Ahlu Bait. Later this place became all people of the Sunnah.




Warya,

As I understand it Central Somalia was always a diehard hotbed for sufis. In 2007 when Shabab came guns blazing and tried to take over thats when they started their 'ahlu sunnah' group.

Couldnt agree more. I remember when I went to Hargeisa and Gabile in 2003, where the majority of Somalis still lent towards sufi teachings. I went back this summer and Masha'Allah the Sunnah is in full force. So many brothers returned from Madinah and Damaj and set up masjids, dars and communities based on the teachings of the Prophet saw. Walahi the sufi masjids are shunned now and people flock to the salafi masjids.

[Cherine]

They just need to be corrected on some issues, sida kale waa good Muslims . As Muslims we need to rise above this Sufi/Salafi nonsense.