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Re: Somali Pastor Gunned Down in Garissa

Postby eliteSomali » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:01 am

The intolerance in this thread is nauseating ! A Muslim gets attacked in a Christian country and these same folks are up in arms.
Abdiwahab: I don't think you understand at all. How can you equate the two? We're not saying kill non muslims in Muslim countries. Matter of fact, I wouldn't call that. Let them chill but when it's a former muslim who has chosen to leave Islam, then he should be killed, instantly if possible.

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Re: Somali Pastor Gunned Down in Garissa

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:03 am

Waryaa,

Don't mind these 1/2 Shababists. These folks are more of a danger to a peaceful nation than a Pastor. I'd rather have a 1,000 Micheal Mariamos, Edna Ismails, Warfaa, the Hiiraan missionary, etc than these Shababists.

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Re: Somali Pastor Gunned Down in Garissa

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:04 am

EliteSomali,

Who gave you license to extinguish God's creature ? This Jahiil behavior must be curbed cause in 90% of the folks posting here are living in Christian countries and would suffer if the Christians were to return the favor.

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Re: Somali Pastor Gunned Down in Garissa

Postby Thuganomics » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:05 am

Elite:warya is right.You can't have every Abdi Cumar and Hassan carrying extra Judicial killing willy-niily cos then we'll just anarchy.And even the ruling that apostates should be killed may not stand up in a true Islamic Court in this day and age

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Re: Somali Pastor Gunned Down in Garissa

Postby Osob101 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:05 am

The intolerance in this thread is nauseating ! A Muslim gets attacked in a Christian country and these same folks are up in arms.
Abdiwahab: I don't think you understand at all. How can you equate the two? We're not saying kill non muslims in Muslim countries. Matter of fact, I wouldn't call that. Let them chill but when it's a former muslim who has chosen to leave Islam, then he should be killed, instantly if possible.


Co-Sign and no I do not live in a Christian country for your info.

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Re: Somali Pastor Gunned Down in Garissa

Postby waryaa » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:10 am

Waryaa,

Don't mind these 1/2 Shababists. These folks are more of a danger to a peaceful nation than a Pastor. I'd rather have a 1,000 Micheal Mariamos, Edna Ismails, Warfaa, the Hiiraan missionary, etc than these Shababists.
:up:

fyi, Warfaa is Muslim. I prayed with him more than 10 times in Mogadishu.

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Re: Somali Pastor Gunned Down in Garissa

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:12 am

waryaa,

This was a Xawadle brother who got shot in 1994 after a mission to Bulo bUrte to build a hospital. He got shot because he brought his church funded project to do some humanitarian work there.

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Re: Somali Pastor Gunned Down in Garissa

Postby eliteSomali » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:12 am

EliteSomali,

Who gave you license to extinguish God's creature ? This Jahiil behavior must be curbed cause in 90% of the folks posting here are living in Christian countries and would suffer if the Christians were to return the favor.
:ufdup: Don't leave the religion fool. Otherwise you shall be slain.


Thug: I don't think he's got more knowledge than the scholars who dedicated their lives to deciphering the diin.

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Re: Somali Pastor Gunned Down in Garissa

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:21 am

Elite,

I thought there was no compulsion in religion.

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Re: Somali Pastor Gunned Down in Garissa

Postby Thuganomics » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:26 am



Thug: I don't think he's got more knowledge than the scholars who dedicated their lives to deciphering the diin.
I didn't say that sxb,you're putting words in my mouth
I just said he's right in this instance.Do you think the "the scholars who dedicated their lives to deciphering the diin"intended for the common man to carry out all penal punishments on the spur of the moment.In Islam we have a just Judicial Process.

The ruling that apostates should be killed was a fatwa of a certain time.After the Rasul (saw) died .A lot of people left Islam and a lot of the enemies of Islam also became Muslims under the pretext of gathering info.With the intention of harming the young Islamic State.It was then thatt this edict was enacted because those
who left Islam were committing an act of treason.Nevertheless that fatwa became a precedent and still stands.But in this day and age if a person was bbrought infont of a truly just Islamic Court it might not stand.As the apostate would only be harming him/her self by leaving Al-Islam

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Re: Somali Pastor Gunned Down in Garissa

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:29 am



Thug: I don't think he's got more knowledge than the scholars who dedicated their lives to deciphering the diin.
I didn't say that sxb,you're putting words in my mouth
I just said he's right in this instance.Do you think the "the scholars who dedicated their lives to deciphering the diin"intended for the common man to carry out all penal punishments on the spur of the moment.In Islam we have a just Judicial Process.

The ruling that apostates should be killed was a fatwa of a certain time.After the Rasul (saw).A lot of people left Islam and a lot of the enemies of Islam also became Muslims under the pretext of gathering info.With the intention of harming the young Islamic State.It was then thatt this edict was enacted because those
who left Islam were committing an act of treason.Nevertheless that fatwa became a precedent and still stands.But in this day and age if a person was bbrought infont of a truly just Islamic Court it might not stand.As the apostate would only be harming him/her self by leaving Al-Islam
:mindblown: Beware warya. An E-Fatwa will be issued by these zealots who find it hard to pray but are quick to rally around beheading another human.

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Re: Somali Pastor Gunned Down in Garissa

Postby DonCorleone » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:30 am

you can't kill them


Quran doesn't say you can kill them, if yall have some quranic proof ill back you 1000%

if they really believed in islam, then they wouldn't try and 'leave' i blame their parents.

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Re: Somali Pastor Gunned Down in Garissa

Postby FarhanYare » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:36 am

osob,
why kill him though :mindblown:

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Re: Somali Pastor Gunned Down in Garissa

Postby AbkoowDhiblaawe » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:56 am

If he was a Somali and became Christian than he should be killed unless some of you want some interpretations that are different than what we were thought as children. Somali Gaal ah should be massacred doofarta
Nacalad yahay who the hell do you think you are? Shabaab maxaad dhaanta :arrow: :arrow:

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Re: Somali Pastor Gunned Down in Garissa

Postby waryaa » Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:07 am

osob, i didn't intend to insult your intelligence and my question was genuine, and was directed toward all of you who approved this killing. I wanna thank you for speaking your mind, not that i agree with you on matter 8-)

awahab, yes, that same Warfa. He escaped five assassination attempts and has bullet scars from one of those attempts.

thug, beware, we have a lot of armchair judges in our midst :)

elite & co, would u behead your daughter if she leaves Islam?


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