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Re: The Euro-nuts are outraged. The DNA of Ramses III

Postby Basra- » Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:02 pm

:mindblown: Xplaya waa qaniis buraan! :dj: :dj:

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Re: The Euro-nuts are outraged. The DNA of Ramses III

Postby Meyle » Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:06 pm

X.Playa,


I agree the Ancient Egyptians weren't exclusively north east African. The Sahara and northern parts of Africa was already inhabited by other African groups mainly nilotic groups and this is during the neolithic when Sahara/north Africa was lush and green. However the migration of proto Afro-Asiatic groups from the Horn of Africa took place during this time period and these people laid the foundation for the civilization that would later become Ancient Egypt. Thats the difference between other African groups and north east Africans. The language, the religious beliefs, even the culture and way of life were implemented by these people. The ruling class and high priests of the early dynasties were direct descendants of these groups hence their claims of originating from Punt, even migrating back to it during the early dynastic period and the old Kingdom. The north east Africans have played a greater role in the creation of Egypt. One example is the fact that Nilotic and Bantu speakers never have created a script whereas Afro-Asiatic speakers have. The meroitic language that was thought to be Nilotic is now re-considered by linguists because the phonotactics, phonetics and grammatic structure of that language is closer to Afro-Asiatic then to Nilotic aswell as the fact that they never created a script. There is no doubt that Ancient Egypt was an African civilization but everyone these days have their own agenda. Sheekadu waa big business. For instance in the Afrocentric camp you had the late Cheikh Anta Diop who tried to connect the Ancient Egyptian language to his mother tongue Wolof even though they're not in the same language family, different grammatic structures etc. on the other side of the spectrum you have the crazy eurocentrics, who always try to minimize Africa. They make the e1b1b seem less African even though e1b1a and e1b1b both originated from the same haplogroup the e1b1, that originated in the Horn of Africa.

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Re: The Euro-nuts are outraged. The DNA of Ramses III

Postby DonCorleone » Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:25 am

Nilotics contributed to Egypt?? Lol!!!!!!!!! They only came into the scene when they invaded the kingdom and kush which was an Egyptian colony!! Hence why north Sudan has pyramids , lol it won't about nilotics because Egyptians hated them. Nilotics are like adaans they steal history, they call themselves 'Nubian' because of the land they conquered aka stole. Nilotics had nothing to do with Afro asiatic civilizations. This is fact!

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Re: The Euro-nuts are outraged. The DNA of Ramses III

Postby X.Playa » Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:34 am

Nilotics contributed to Egypt?? Lol!!!!!!!!! They only came into the scene when they invaded the kingdom and kush which was an Egyptian colony!! Hence why north Sudan has pyramids , lol it won't about nilotics because Egyptians hated them. Nilotics are like adaans they steal history, they call themselves 'Nubian' because of the land they conquered aka stole. Nilotics had nothing to do with Afro asiatic civilizations. This is fact!
In fact its proven the other way around , that the origin of all Egpytian religion and civilization was originated by the south and Nuba.

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Re: The Euro-nuts are outraged. The DNA of Ramses III

Postby DonCorleone » Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:37 am

Nilotics contributed to Egypt?? Lol!!!!!!!!! They only came into the scene when they invaded the kingdom and kush which was an Egyptian colony!! Hence why north Sudan has pyramids , lol it won't about nilotics because Egyptians hated them. Nilotics are like adaans they steal history, they call themselves 'Nubian' because of the land they conquered aka stole. Nilotics had nothing to do with Afro asiatic civilizations. This is fact!
In fact its proven the other way around , that the origin of all Egpytian religion and civilization was originated by the south and Nuba.
You fool! Nuba didn't exist yet! So how could they influence Egypt? Before 'Nuba' it was the kingdom of kush who were a colony of EGYPT. Nuba came on the scene when the nilotics invaded and started calling themselves the name of the Nuba mountain! This is all fact! Also 'Nuba' is not an Afro asiatic language :D and they contain plenty of cushite loan words :dj:

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Re: The Euro-nuts are outraged. The DNA of Ramses III

Postby X.Playa » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:41 pm

Do you pull your own studies from your own anus?

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Re: The Euro-nuts are outraged. The DNA of Ramses III

Postby Meyle » Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:16 pm

I lose brain cells everytime I read what DonCorleone has written. Can someone delete his posts and ban this ignorant piece of shit. Where's Rightwing?

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Re: The Euro-nuts are outraged. The DNA of Ramses III

Postby DonCorleone » Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:21 pm

I lose brain cells everytime I read what DonCorleone has written. Can someone delete his posts and ban this ignorant piece of shit. Where's Rightwing?
WTF what I written was true ill pat facts in about 20 mins it's hard to get links when ur typing from ur phone. Just go to wiki and see Nubia it started in the 4 th century when the nilotics invaded KUSH,Kush started way before that and was a EGYPTIAN COLONY, why do u think north Sudan has pyramids????? Egyptians or immigrants again wait 20 min so I can post facts with link brb haters.

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Re: The Euro-nuts are outraged. The DNA of Ramses III

Postby Meyle » Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:29 pm

Other African groups were already living across the Sahara and north Africa before the proto Afro-Asiatic group migrated from the Horn of Africa into Egypt. So unless you're going to contribute to this thread, dont write a single word because your posts are
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Re: The Euro-nuts are outraged. The DNA of Ramses III

Postby DonCorleone » Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:56 pm

AFRO ASIATIC DID NOT START IN THE HORN

BUT IN EGYPT OR THE LEVANT which was EGYPTIAN CONTROLLED. Egypt side, all the berber,and hamitic languages, levant side all the semite languages, who were influenced by Egyptians, i will make a thread next showing this influence.

but the origin is still being disputed for afro-asiatic.
there is no agreement on when and where this Urheimat existed, though the language is generally believed to have originated somewhere in or near the region stretching from the Levant/Near East to the area between the Eastern Sahara and the Horn of Africa, including Egypt, Ethiopia and Sudan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro_Asiat ... c_Urheimat

But nevertheless let's start. What I wrote was the truth, but now i'm on my computer and can post links.
My claim: Nubians ( as in the nilotics, not the ancient kushites.) Do not speak an Afro Asiatic language, how could they influence the mighty Egyptian?
Proof:
Nuba is a collective term used here for the peoples who inhabit the Nuba Mountains of South Kordofan state, in Sudan. Although the term is used to describe them as if they composed a single group, the Nuba are multiple distinct peoples and speak different languages. Estimates of the Nuba population vary widely; the Sudanese government estimated that they numbered 1.07 million in 2003
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuba_peoples
Most of the Nuba peoples speak one of the many languages in the geographic Kordofanian languages group of the Nuba Mountains. This language group is in the major Niger–Congo languages family. Several Nuba languages are in the Nilo-Saharan languages family.
The Nuba people reside in one of the most remote and inaccessible places in all of Sudan, the foothills of the Nuba Mountains in central Sudan. At one time the area was considered a place of refuge, bringing together people of many different tongues and backgrounds who were fleeing oppressive governments and slave traders.
Who were the slaves????
in ancient times...
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Results: The 'NUBA' people, some migrated escaping slave traders, but they are all named after the mountain, they are not one people. They speak a Nilo Saharan language and are Nilotic. NOT EGYPTIAN OR KUSHITE

Claim: Nilotics invaded the kingdom of Kush and claimed the civilization as their own afterwards and changed the name. They are migrants and not natives to the area.
they merely conquered it and named their identity after the Nuba mountains in which they settled and started claiming the civilization.


Proof:
The Kingdom of Kush or Kush was an ancient African kingdom situated on the confluences of the Blue Nile, White Nile and River Atbara in what is now the Republic of Sudan.
After the collapse of the Kushite empire several states emerged in its former territories, among them Nubia.
Aspelta (king of kush) moved the capital to Meroë, considerably farther south than Napata, possibly in 591 BC. It is also possible that Meroë had always been the Kushite capital.
Historians believe that the Kushite rulers may have chosen Meroë as their home because, unlike Napata, the region around Meroë had enough woodlands to provide fuel for iron working. In addition, Kush was no longer dependent on the Nile to trade with the outside world; they could instead transport goods from Meroë to the Red Sea coast, where Greek merchants were now traveling extensively.
Proof of Nilotic Migrants
The name Nubia is derived from that of the Noba people, nomads who settled the area in the 4th century, with the collapse of the kingdom of Meroë. The Noba spoke a Nilo-Saharan language, ancestral to Old Nubian. Old Nubian was mostly used in religious texts dating from the 8th and 15th centuries AD.
Results: The Nilotics are immigrants to the area, named themselves after the mountain, settled in the region.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nubia
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Re: The Euro-nuts are outraged. The DNA of Ramses III

Postby Negritude » Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:59 pm

I lose brain cells everytime I read what DonCorleone has written. Can someone delete his posts and ban this ignorant piece of shit. Where's Rightwing?
f-king word.

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Re: The Euro-nuts are outraged. The DNA of Ramses III

Postby Meyle » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:52 pm

The urheimat of Afro-Asiatic languages is most likely in Africa specifically the Horn of Africa. If you go back a page, I already quoted some facts that would disprove your so called ''facts'' from wikipedia. If you're not going to contribute to this thread, dont write a single word. Im tired of your ignorance, your racism and your unintellectual way of approaching debates.

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Re: The Euro-nuts are outraged. The DNA of Ramses III

Postby DonCorleone » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:10 am

The urheimat of Afro-Asiatic languages is most likely in Africa specifically the Horn of Africa. If you go back a page, I already quoted some facts that would disprove your so called ''facts'' from wikipedia. If you're not going to contribute to this thread, dont write a single word. Im tired of your ignorance, your racism and your unintellectual way of approaching debates.
Facts? Okay just because it may not be the f-king horn of africa, or go against your 'theories'

does not mean it's wrong and you have to get all pissy,
can you post your stats and links please?

FACT: All somails come from the NORTH

FACT: No one knows the afro asiatic origins or land of origin.

FACT: EGYPTIANS WORSHIPED PUNT and believed they were the same PEOPLE

FACT: HAM HAD A SON CALLED PHUT, THE MOST MYSTERIOUS OF THEM ALL.

FACT: PHUT USED TO BORDER EGYPT

FACT: SOMALIS COME FROM EGYPT

FACT: NILOTICS INVADED KUSH


where is the lies here? Or are you a nuba depseratly trying to cling to the bosom of egypt? :roll:

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Re: The Euro-nuts are outraged. The DNA of Ramses III

Postby DonCorleone » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:17 am

X.Playa,


I agree the Ancient Egyptians weren't exclusively north east African. The Sahara and northern parts of Africa was already inhabited by other African groups mainly nilotic groups and this is during the neolithic when Sahara/north Africa was lush and green. However the migration of proto Afro-Asiatic groups from the Horn of Africa took place during this time period and these people laid the foundation for the civilization that would later become Ancient Egypt. Thats the difference between other African groups and north east Africans. The language, the religious beliefs, even the culture and way of life were implemented by these people. The ruling class and high priests of the early dynasties were direct descendants of these groups hence their claims of originating from Punt, even migrating back to it during the early dynastic period and the old Kingdom. The north east Africans have played a greater role in the creation of Egypt. One example is the fact that Nilotic and Bantu speakers never have created a script whereas Afro-Asiatic speakers have. The meroitic language that was thought to be Nilotic is now re-considered by linguists because the phonotactics, phonetics and grammatic structure of that language is closer to Afro-Asiatic then to Nilotic aswell as the fact that they never created a script. There is no doubt that Ancient Egypt was an African civilization but everyone these days have their own agenda. Sheekadu waa big business. For instance in the Afrocentric camp you had the late Cheikh Anta Diop who tried to connect the Ancient Egyptian language to his mother tongue Wolof even though they're not in the same language family, different grammatic structures etc. on the other side of the spectrum you have the crazy eurocentrics, who always try to minimize Africa. They make the e1b1b seem less African even though e1b1a and e1b1b both originated from the same haplogroup the e1b1, that originated in the Horn of Africa.
lol merotic has not been assigned to any language family, how con it be Nilotic?


Nilotics weren't even in Kush yet when merotic was being spoken. Stop getting facts out of your ass

Lol how did nilotics influence a language they didn't even know yet?
LOL
The classification of Meroitic is uncertain due to the scarcity of data and difficulty in interpreting it. Since the alphabet was deciphered in 1909, it has been proposed that Meroitic is related to Nubian and similar languages of the Nilo-Saharan phylum, though no conclusive evidence has ever been produced.
also
WE KNOW THE KINGDOM OF KUSH WAS AN EGYPTIAN COLONY, BUT WAS THEIR LANGUAGE AFRO ASIATIC ALSO?
Rowan (2006, 2011) notes that the Meroitic sound inventory and phonotactics (the only aspects of the language which are secure) are similar to those of the Afroasiatic languages, and dissimilar from Nilo-Saharan languages. For example, very rarely does one find the sequence CVC, where the consonants (C) are both labials or both velars. This is similar to consonant restrictions found throughout the Afro-Asiatic language family, suggesting that there is a good chance Meroitic was an Afro-Asiatic language like Egyptian, though there is no way at present to tell which branch of Afro-Asiatic it may have been in.
no matter the source facts are facts.
source: http://wysinger.homestead.com/file37822.pdf
Aspelta( KING OF KUSH) moved the capital to Meroë, considerably farther south than Napata, possibly in 591 BC.(BEFORE NILOTIC INVASION)
It is also possible that Meroë had always been the Kushite capital.
Source:http://books.google.ca/books?id=GX1fNzy ... edir_esc=y


WHERE ARE YOUR SOURCES :blessed: MR. NUBA?

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