June 5th, 1993, the start of the UN War in Somalia

[AbdiWahab252]

Twenty years ago, the UN invasion force started the first major battle of one of its bloodiest wars. UN warmakers from Pakistan were sent to seize Radio Mogadishu and shut it down when they were thwarted by Somalis loyal to the Somali National Alliance of Gen. Aidid (AUN). The result of the foreign aggression lead to the deaths of two dozen Pakistani warmakers and triggered on the of most bloodiest conflicts in modern history culminating in an embarrassing withdrawal of the UN forces.

The Sides:

Foreign Forces:

United Nations Force Commander:

General Bir of Turkey



US Force Commander:

Admiral Johnathan Howe



UN Secretary General Boutrous Boutros Ghali (Former Egyptian Foreign Minister & friend of General Mohamed Siyaad Barre):





The Somali National Alliance:

SNA Commander Mohamed Farah Aidid




Finance and Operations Osman Ali Hassan Atto




Logistics and Mobilization Colonel Abdi Hassan Awale




Defense Commander: Ahmed Omar Jess, Somali Patriotic Movement

[Nomand]

by that time aideed controlled a few districts in mogadishu.

[barbarossa]

Here is once again Abdiwahab, the de facto emissary here in Snet of the now defunct USC, reminiscing over what he no doubt perceives to be its glorious past. Once dedicated and a promising young cadet himself in the USC militia wing , Aw does not neglect to pay homage to the revered 'great' leaders of this once proud and mighty entity. O how the mighty have fallen!

[Garuun]

they killed my best freind these invaders.he was just 15.
why where ever this u.n goes it turns to graveyard.look back last 2 decades alone

they may help few here and there, laakiin waa masiibo socoto

[AbdiWahab252]

Barbossa,

No one is stopping you from observing the most memorable days of your life.


Garuun,

I found it ironic that the same UN scum repackaged themselves as UNSOM by simply dropping the "O". The UNSOM will bring nothing but more prolonged turbulence for Somalia.

[Niya]

Can you quantify the colateral damage? and also shed some light on how many Somalis become millonaires after 1993? The background history of Somalis war profiteers needs to be documented.

[Garuun]

aw
the general delayed their imperialism plan for more than decade.in the mean time the shababs were born.lol

[AbdiWahab252]

Can you quantify the colateral damage? and also shed some light on how many Somalis become millonaires after 1993? The background history of Somalis war profiteers needs to be documented.

13,000 Somalis killed in less than 5 months. The civil war was prolonged for another 20 years. The chances for peace were much higher in late 1992 as all warring sides were spent and a stalemate had been reached. The UN intervention sparked life into the conflict which had gone from one in which the warring sides could amass tens of thousands of men on each side to breaking down to a a few hundred. War has a beginning and end which only occurs when one side is allowed to accomplish a decisive victory and the losing side is forced to sue for peace i.e. Rwanda which saw the Tutsis soundly defeat the Hutu government with no foreign interference to help reprop the Hutu regime and provide it with political space to reconstitute within Rwanda.

The war economy was already booming by 1988. The theft by the Somali National Army which resorted to living off the population was massive. The loot stolen from the North filled Mogadishu. The pillaging of the Central Bank was in full swing which lead to massive shortages of cash by 1990. Even if the USC didn't storm Mogadishu 1991, the civil service and military would have deposed the regime for its failure to pay them.


Garuun,

By a decade ? If he succeeded there would have been no Shabab nor any other foreign backed groups in Somalia. He was a nationalist who deeply disliked foreign backed groups be they Al Itihad or the ProKenyan SNF who invaded Somalia from Kenya in Summer 1991 using Kenyan military trucks and supplies along with Kenyan regulars from Garissa county under the direction of the Somali Kenyan General Mohamud. It was after the massive defeat of the ProBarre forces that resulted in the USC-SNA regulars sweeping into Mandera county which they occupied for 1 week while the Kenyans shid themselves:

He knew how to play off the so called world powers. The first group to peel away from the US/UN camp were the Italians who were lobbied by the Pope John Paul II to end their operations in Somalia. Rumor has it that they cooperated with the General. The neighboring states besides Djibouti were neutral and did not allow their territory to be used for military operations against Somalia.

[MadMullah20]

^^Abdiwahib, or anyone else, can you provide context as to why exactly Aidid was in Kenya and what was he discussing with the Kenyan officials. you touched it on but can you elaborate? Mahadsanid

[Jam Street]

Abdiwahab - you forgot about one of the most important figures from the Unisom II side Mudane Mr. Bootaale Robert Oakley. Couple of other key figures from their side General Montgomery and Zinni. The cowards who ordered the butchering of more than 90 innocent HabarGidir elders.

[jamal9]

Fact: No HG has been president of Somalia since MSB's fall.
Fact: Abgaal had 2 president's back to back.
Fact: Muslims (pakis) UN soldiers were replaced with Bantu UN soldiers

[AbdiWahab252]

MadMullah,

For the prior year, the Kenyans were arming and supporting MSB's come back under the supervision and support of General Mohamud of the Kenya Defense Force. Logistics, weapons and manpower (of ethnic Somalis from NFD) were deployed in support of the mission. After the failure of the campaign, the MSB forces were pushed out of the country and Mandera & El Waaq Kenya fell under control of the USC who were in hot pursuit of the fleeing MSB forces. The miscalculation was that MSB was going to flee via Mandera not El Waaq.

The Kenyans negotiated for the return of El Waaq and Mandera in return for Kenya ceasing support for any Somali force from Kenyan territory.

It was a deal that held until 2010 when the Kenyans trained and armed militia under Gandhi and Madoobe for the so called Azania program.

Jamstreet,

Animal Howe was the architect of the attack. General Aidid warned the elders not to meet in the building but they thought he was trying to undermine them. After the attack, all of Aidid's opponents were liquidated and he attained "MAhdism" All HG were marching in lock step even to Jahanam if he ordered us to.