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Re: This guy cant be somali, it must be a mistake

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:43 pm
by Bilis
I'm speaking of the man in the video, and the MJ puntland minister is clearly just a somalized zanzi, meaning the zanzi's that left tanzania and were on their way to Oman, 200 years ago, little of them settled and learned the language, he is one of them.
Indeed sxb. The man is obviously Bantu. :roll:

Re: This guy cant be somali, it must be a mistake

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:50 pm
by Bilis
True Puntite Cushites look like this:

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Classic ancient Somali :up:
Exactly walaal. True, ethnic Somalis are of Hamitic origin. You know this, I know this, and so does every other reasonably well-preserved Faarax and Xaliimo.

There's an archaeological site in northern Somalia called Dhambalin, which contains rock art showing early inhabitants of the region and their advanced pastoralist and hunting lifestyle. It's especially revealing because it depicts many animals that normally only live in much more fertile areas, such as the ibex. This tells us that the region was considerably greener in the recent past than it is today:
”Dhambalin is a rock art site in the desert, about 20 miles from the Red Sea, where there are 5,000-year-old paintings of animals in red, green, pink, white, brown, yellow, and black. It’s the only site in the region decorated with images of sheep, along with antelope and ibex. Those animals haven’t lived there in many years, so the paintings reveal an environment that was once more hospitable than today’s desert.”

http://daalonews.com/ARTICLES/Sada%20Mi ... story.html
Why is this important? It's key because it completely undermines the main argument that people who believe that ancestral Somalis are native to the Horn region like to use: namely, that our ancestors evolved their distinct physical features indigenously, after many thousands of years of adaptation to a desert environment. This is obviously not the case since the Horn was perfectly green not that long ago. Fine features, as a rule, also do not evolve in jungles -- broad features do.

So clearly, ancestral Somalis arrived from elsewhere. And not only did those early Hamitic folks bring fine facial features into the Horn with them, they also brought jileec hair. How do we know this? Again, archaeological evidence. One of the human figures depicted on the Dhambalin rock art appears to have long hair:
"There are about eight–ten human figures visible. In addition, places where the actual paint has come off or faded, there are the worn away figures still visible on the rock. Scenes with human figures are dominated by herds of wild animals and hunters in action with bows and arrows. There are at least four hunting scenes with four hunters each holding what appear to be bow and arrows (see Fig. 4). One depicts a male hunter with bow and arrow, who seems to be wearing his hair down with headgear on top of the head. He is surrounded by two dogs and at least one antelope (see Fig. 5)."
Good observation bro. :up:

Re: This guy cant be somali, it must be a mistake

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:02 pm
by quark
Why is there a need about talking about the features of other men by some cats on this forum? :wtf: Somali bantus arent the problem in former somalia.

Re: This guy cant be somali, it must be a mistake

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:04 pm
by HayWire
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MAJEERTEEN ARE BANTU LOOK THESE GUYS :dj:

Re: This guy cant be somali, it must be a mistake

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:36 pm
by DonCorleone
HOW DID PUNTALANDERS GET BANTU DNA WITHOUT BORDERING THEM :dafuq:

:lol: ANSWERS PUNAAAAANIS :lol:

Re: This guy cant be somali, it must be a mistake

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:39 pm
by Bilis
Looks like I hit a nerve again, eh 'ol friend? :lol:

Nice attempt to liken Somalized Bantus with the least well-preserved Puntlanders you could find.

Too bad you're on a Somali forum where folks know better:
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Re: This guy cant be somali, it must be a mistake

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:45 pm
by DonCorleone
can anyone ANSWER MY QUESTION

ALL SOMALI BANTUS HEAD TO PUNTLAND TO RUN THE GOVERNMENT :yes: :som:

Re: This guy cant be somali, it must be a mistake

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:58 pm
by Bilis
^The Majeerteen Sultanate and Hobyo Sultanate used to import jareer slaves from the Zanzibar market. After the Italians nominally abolished the slave trade in the early 1900s, many of these slaves stayed in the region and claimed noble clan affiliation, though on a sheegato or client basis. The few Bantu-looking people found today in the north who hold important positions in society are descendants of these assimilated jareer peoples.

Puntland also hosts almost half a million IDPs from the south, many of whom are as you know Bantus. That is what cabdallah252 was alluding to.

Re: This guy cant be somali, it must be a mistake

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:50 pm
by AbkoowDhiblaawe


He is the deputy foreign minister of somalia but the man looks like the deputy FM of Uganda

Jamaal Axmed Barrow Wasiir ku xigeenka arrimaha dibada, Digil iyo Mirifle/Jiido.
http://jubbalandnews.com/?p=9863

Re: This guy cant be somali, it must be a mistake

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:16 am
by Titanium


He is the deputy foreign minister of somalia but the man looks like the deputy FM of Uganda

Jamaal Axmed Barrow Wasiir ku xigeenka arrimaha dibada, Digil iyo Mirifle/Jiido.
http://jubbalandnews.com/?p=9863
Looks like he joined the D&M clan. Barrow is a Jareerweyn name.

Re: This guy cant be somali, it must be a mistake

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 2:53 am
by DonCorleone
It's probably from prior slave origin loool the use is like 35 Somali civil war refuuges started like the 90s looool the boon-nees was correct lool puntland should be called the boonies or goonies lol :lol: pirates boons and lost treasure

Re: This guy cant be somali, it must be a mistake

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:00 am
by barakaboy10
cabdalla and billis,

you guys definitely need some psychological evaluation and should consult with a doctor asap.

i say this because i don't think you could ever be ok and talk like this. it is absolutely impossible!

now, i know you gonna call me some names---and i don't care--but the truth is, majerten, darod or somalis as a whole are pure black africans. you could tell me heresys or you could post a few light-skinned individuals who do not really represent somalis and could have a mixed race background themselves and i could either take or not, but the notion that you're better because your ancestors made you believe fiction stories is lovable and pure ignorance.

i would suggest you accept reality as it is and move on because you will never be like the people you want to be. in fact, when they hear you say something like that, the least thing they would do is laugh at you. you will be lucky if they don't use racial slurs at you.

aside from that, i thought the ignorance that had diminished our reputation and our country's growth potential and made us be the least likeable people in the world is still strong and alive.

it is beyond my imagination and only solidifies my pessimistic view about somalia ever becoming a strong, stable and progressive country. hopeless!

Re: This guy cant be somali, it must be a mistake

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:13 am
by DonCorleone
Post a pure Bantu who looks Somali

Re: This guy cant be somali, it must be a mistake

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:40 pm
by Bilis
@ barakaboy10

You're speaking from emotions and not facts. You're also attributing to me things I never said, which in itself is quite telling.

One thing's clear: you understand little about Somali genetics, anthropology, history and clan dynamics.

FYI, every man I posted is a well-known Puntland public official. None has a "mixed race background". :lol: That is precisely why they look the way they do.

I've noticed a trend on this forum where certain members get very insecure whenever Somalis who actually look like Somalis for a change are shown. For your information, I could present entire crowds of similar folks; no cherry-picking necessary my friend:

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The fact is, the Somali physical variation spectrum goes from the man on the left below (Abdullahi Ahmed Irro) to the man on the right (Sheikh Sharif Ahmed):

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If it makes you feel any better, I could replace General Irro with the slightly darker Ahmed Karaash. But that would still remain the general range of Somali physical variation:

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As Don Corleone noted, this range of variation does not exist among jareer peoples. It only exists among Somalis and related Hamito-Semitic groups.

Most Somalis, like the girls and guys above, fall somewhere in between those two left/right poles. However, not all are concentrated towards the same end. Certain groups and individuals are definitely closer to one end of the spectrum than are others. This is irrefutable and has been demonstrated by a number of peer-reviewed studies (just say the word and I will gladly share one). This last point is something that people in denial like you must learn to accept. Shooting the messenger (me) won't alter this basic reality.

Re: This guy cant be somali, it must be a mistake

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:10 pm
by Chinaman
^The Majeerteen Sultanate and Hobyo Sultanate used to import jareer slaves from the Zanzibar market. After the Italians nominally abolished the slave trade in the early 1900s, many of these slaves stayed in the region and claimed noble clan affiliation, though on a sheegato or client basis. The few Bantu-looking people found today in the north who hold important positions in society are descendants of these assimilated jareer peoples.
That's bullcrap, absolute bullcrap! There is not even one remnant of a jareer from any sultanate in puntland!! Not one wallahi! This nothing more than the stuff of legends. They are non-existant. Puntlanders are all one hundred percent pure Somalis apart from ones who have abgaal moms or something. I dare someone to post a single family pic or group pic of these so called remnants rather than dark skinned weird looking "INDIVIDUAL" somalis which I could do for almost every Somali group lol, you and I know both know that. Go on......please, entertain me. Where are these people? Where is their Degaan? please post a video of them? Which places do they live in? Why are they so mysterious and quiet? lol

exactly

I'm tired of this, how dare you fuckers try to question the purity of puntlanders when puntlanders, specially far bari Somalis are one of the most isolated and most genetically Somali of all Somalis. Disgusting Hawiyes are like 10% Bantu on average whilst Puntlanders are like 0%. This alone makes this whole "conversation" a f-king joke, makes my blood boil. This is why I want puntland to be independent from the south. The only thing that makes the pure Somali people different from all other Africans is the lack of Bantu/west African like blood. Even Egyptians/Moroccans and practically all Africans apart from horn Africans carry west African like admixture (whether it is Bantu who are originally from west Africa or direct west African admixture). Egyptians got it through the Sudanese who got it from the Chadians, they are usually 5-6% West African on average. For Moroccans and Algerians its more like 10% west African. With southern, central and other parts of east African apart from the horn the Bantu expansion happened. Even nilotics carry west African like admixture at around 20%. They probably got it through some past event from Chadian like people. Practically all khoisans are impure...they are soo small anyway and barely exist. That's what makes horn africans so unique.

Also majority of horn Africans themselves carry Omotic admixture, which are another native east African group (not related to west Africans and aren't admixed with them) but it appears that the only group that lack omotic admixture are also Somalis out of all horn Africans which makes Somalis pretty unique. Now a lot southern Somalis carry both bantu and omotic blood meaning the carry the very thing that differentiates us from the rest of the africa. This is why pure Somalis in my opinion the northern and central part of Somalia should secede from the south, the south is a f-king threat to our purity and the uniqueness of the Somali people, we are barely a nation of 9 million in Somalia, with likely around 3-4 million of these being non-ethnic Somalis and impure Somalis, it's really effing sad.

Anyway Majerteens are one of the most purest of all Somalis, there are now even peer-reviewed studies done on Somali populations, some of them from puntland its pretty clear they don't carry a drop of recent foreign blood. I can't say the same for Hutus.

Oh and those IDP''s need to f-king be sent back to wherever they came from.

Hawiye impure cunts are always talking about majerteens, hilarious when the only majerteen that even is in this forum any more is me and one or two more other people. No surprise though, historically they were practically our slaves and they have self esteem issues. Anyway anyone who doubts the Negroidness of Hawiyes needs only to look at their lands and the state of Mogadishu. Their retarded jareer genes is the reason why they haven't built a proper mamuul since the fall of the last proper government. These people shouldn't be considered to be Somalis.