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First of all even though granpa asked you those questions he already predicted your response. In previous threads you said you support Asad and against FSA because Israel provided them with weapons. You need to understand not everyone that gets in contact with Israel is evil. Typical Sufi judgement I say, you also believe that "Salafis" have some sort of relationship with Israel and call them fake. That's exactly what I meant by my previous comment. I know for a fact that these opinions of yours are influence by sheikhs such as Imran Hosein and Hamza Yusuf and you didn't just magically wake up one day and decide that yourself which is what I meant by the following comment. In no way shape or form did I say you are outside Islam. I said that you practise bid'a to you previously because you admitted yourself that you take part in intercession and mawliid. When I insult you I don't insult you because I believe you are not Muslim, you need to understand that. The fact that you are accusing me of calling you non muslim shows that you somewhat know what your practising is dodgy and believe that due to that I speak of you like you're outside Islam. It's all in your head! The only reason you dislike sunnis specifically those who claim to follow the salafs are because of leaders like Saud and many similar ones in the Arab world. What reason did you have to dislike Morsi tell me? Except that he is a Sunni? Your sheikhs have brainwashed you to believe that sunnis specifically those who follow the Salaf are some sort of bogymen who are all nutheads and terrorist and west bum lickers. You need to calm down with your conspiracies and think without the influence of these sheikhs of yours.

sista, couldn't put it better myself

First of all even though granpa asked you those questions he already predicted your response. In previous threads you said you support Asad and against FSA because Israel provided them with weapons. You need to understand not everyone that gets in contact with Israel is evil. Typical Sufi judgement I say, you also believe that "Salafis" have some sort of relationship with Israel and call them fake. That's exactly what I meant by my previous comment. I know for a fact that these opinions of yours are influence by sheikhs such as Imran Hosein and Hamza Yusuf and you didn't just magically wake up one day and decide that yourself which is what I meant by the following comment. In no way shape or form did I say you are outside Islam. I said that you practise bid'a to you previously because you admitted yourself that you take part in intercession and mawliid. When I insult you I don't insult you because I believe you are not Muslim, you need to understand that. The fact that you are accusing me of calling you non muslim shows that you somewhat know what your practising is dodgy and believe that due to that I speak of you like you're outside Islam. It's all in your head! The only reason you dislike sunnis specifically those who claim to follow the salafs are because of leaders like Saud and many similar ones in the Arab world. What reason did you have to dislike Morsi tell me? Except that he is a Sunni? Your sheikhs have brainwashed you to believe that sunnis specifically those who follow the Salaf are some sort of bogymen who are all nutheads and terrorist and west bum lickers. You need to calm down with your conspiracies and think without the influence of these sheikhs of yours.

I had to stop there, you see, I'm a muslim, and I read the Qur'an, and I actually obey what the Qur'an says.

Anyone from islam, who goes to the kuffar for alliance, in this case, any muslim state, firm, organization, who go to the west for alliance, here's what your lord, and my lord, Allah, Al Xayyu wal Qayyum says about this matter in the Qur'an.

"O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as Auliya' (friends, protectors, helpers, etc.), they are but Auliya' to one another. And if any amongst you takes them as Auliya', then surely he is one of them. Verily, Allah guides not those people who are the Dhalimun (wrong-doers and unjust)."

So you just for trying to justify, allying yourself to Isreal, I suggest you ask forgiveness because in the Qur'an Allah clearly states do not, do not , do not, go for them for friendship, protection, helpers, and this is exactly what the opposition in syria are doing, and if they are not doing that, they are butchering un-armed people with knives and axes, which is also xaram, and if they are not doing that, then they are getting their nijas hands on the sahaba's graves and unjustly grabbing their bodies out, which is also haram, and yet you stand for all of this?

can't you see I see things the way I should, with the lens of the sunnah and the qur'an? Morsi, a man who claims to be representing muslims, taking riba loans from the kuffar, despite Allah saying it is xaram in the very qur'an morsi believes in, yet he openly disobeys his lord, yet I should not be angry with such a man? A sunni is one who strives to recover the lost aspects of the prophets sunnah, and shariica, and much of the sunnis you see today, do not do that, they do the opposite, I hope you now see my point of view in the world of Islam, as one in which I see only with what the Qur'an judges, and anything against it, I am against it too.

However, what abubakr said is also true.

Waliba this girl still talks to me like I'm not a sunni, one who practices spirituality , Al Ixsan, is an offshoot of sunni islam, are you blind , did you not read that I said I follow Imam shafici thus making me a sunni, yet you continue to speak to me like I'm not, innaalilla wa ina ilayna rajicun.

Do you even know what that above quote means? LOL Abuukar have you finished the quran or learnt it's tafseer? before you think you can pull out quotes and use them how you wish. DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT QUOTE MEANS SUBHAN'ALLAH FEAR ALLAH!! That quote does not talk about what the FSA are doing the FSA does not take the Yahud has allies. They simply accepted a few weapons, do you know what it means to take someone as an ally? This above verse relates to many of the Arab world sadly it refers to the man you support also.

Sheikh Salih Fawzan ( a REAL scholar) AND A SAUDI WHO YOU PROBABLY DISLIKE BECAUSE HE IS A FOLLOWER OF THE SALAF AND IS SAUDI. Said this

There are a number of categories of assisting the disbelievers against the Muslims (the one in which there is Muwalaat is the following): “When one (a Muslim) helps the disbelievers against the Muslims by his own free will, without being forced, while he still hates the religion of the disbelievers and is not pleased with it. Such a person, no doubt, has committed one of the major sins, and we fear that he may fall into (major) disbelief. Had he not hated them and their religion we (the scholars of Ahlus Sunnah) would have ruled upon him with kufr (disbelief). Thus, he is in great danger.” Taken from his book Duroos fee Shara Nawaaqidh al-Islaam (p.56-159)

Who do you think this relates to HUH? FSA or Asad? Asad allies himself with the Russians and the shias who some are not even considered Muslim as they think the prophet was mistakenly made a prophet. The only thing stopping me from labelling Asad a kufar is the fact that he claims he is Muslim. May Allah destroy that child killer.

You said yourself you are not sunni fear Allah and do not accuse me of anything. You said you celebrate MAWLID AND PRACTISE INTERCESSION YOU CANNOT BE A SUNNI AND DO THAT!!!! Following imam Shafi3i does not make one a sunni and a real Muslim is not meant to blindly follow an imam. Allah gave you common sense! For example one imam will say this and this and another will say this and that you're supposed to first look at the Quran and Sunnah and if you do not find anything there follow the opinion which sounds the most correct from imams and scholars.



Yes Morsi shouldn't have taken that riba but do you prefer a US backed president who supports the west than Morsi???

Any reply to me you can PM me it, going away to Paris for the weekend. Au revoir!!

to be honest the muslim brotherhood and salafis do not form any threat of any kind to the west's primary interests.
you can get a dictatorship by the muslim brotherhood and even the salafis could take over a country and the west will still do business with them.

If any of these groups attempt to follow the fundementals of the deen and just talk about moving away from riba banking and riba based currency, they will be invaded and squashed overnight.

you can make every women in the country dress up in tents, you can copy iran and form a theology, or western style
single party dictatorship. you can make threatening noises towards isreal, you can ban alcohol and implement hadd laws and start chopping hands etc.
the west may make noises but really wont care too much.

just talk about stopping riba and you have declared jihad on them and you will not be allowed to continue to exist.

Euphoriia, sufism is an offshoot of Sunni Islam, it's not on it's own like shi'ism. They are still deviants.

Still 17 years old?

Do i need to repeat myself that what the Qur'an says clearly stands out in our time? Do you know the scholars who represent muslims today, the prophet deemed them to be the worst creatures under the sky? There is no justification for an alliance to the zionists, once you go to them, like Allah says, you are void of guidance and you belong to them. I don't need sheikh hebelayo to tell me that, it was very clear, and Allahu a3lam I understand the quran in a different way to you, I don't know what you read out of that surah in surah maidah, but that ayah clearly said that do not do it, and it is an order, do you not obey Allah? Why do I need a western-slave sheikh to tell me that when the qur'an is there for me to read,a book revealed to all humans? Get out of here, wallahi you are one crazy person to actually justify that which the quran does not allow, wal yacuudubillah

Little does the kid know that the Prophet SAW accepted weapons from Safwan bin Ummaya a mushrik polytheist at the time for the Battle of Hunain. I guess the guy is gonna take this ayat and say that it applies too.

I only go with ulumah and fuqaha, I don't take ayats and state their taweel like Imran Hossein and the likes who aren't even qualified Mufassir.

Stop declaring people khawarij left or right, for verily it is heavy accusation on the Day of Judgement. You are calling a whole rebel movement kuffar.

That ayah has interpretations and a context.

The Prophet SAW didn't negotiate with the kuffar of quraish in the makkan period. However in xudaybiyah they did.
Note that Rasuulki SAW didn't sit on a negotiation table when the muslims were weak, but when they were strong.

Ok go ahead and make alliances and be dependent on the zionists, when judgment day is near your kufrnimo is between you and Allah, i'm done with these people, the qur'an says one thing and they say it's okay to disobey it, wtf.

Gurey could not have said it better.spot on

I have been saying from the beginning that today's Islamists are more concerned with little issues like covering womens bodies than they are
in implementing the real sharia which bans a lot of stuff RIba being a major one.

Morsi in his short lived reign has borrowed billions of dollars from IMF in economic boost policy and there is nothing Islamic about that
one should also reference history and see the role the Brotherhood took in Egypts most trying periods when facing the Zionist state of Israel they opposed
Gamal Abdi Naser and went as far as collaborating secretly with Israel.

brothers and sisters let it be known that the inception of this organisation was one of western and British intelligence creation
Morsi was not ousted even if his toppling was given the green light by the west because he repelled against them more like he was stupid puppet who could not get
his stuff in order.

Ok go ahead and make alliances and be dependent on the zionists, when judgment day is near your kufrnimo is between you and Allah, i'm done with these people, the qur'an says one thing and they say it's okay to disobey it, wtf.

no, im not saying that. im saying that there is a difference between making a negatiation and depending on them, taking their ribaa helping them against the enemies of other muslims and not ruling by Allah's law.